Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Yes, that is true, the drawing is just descriptive to make easier to understand the invention. We must not give much importance to drawings.

The real key part of patents are the CLAIMS. Claims are the part which gives legal protection to the patent. What it is written in the claims is protected, the rest are just the technical description. The 1908 patent was granted few months after the filing date. I do not remember who said it was not granted. It was granted. The ones which were not granted were the ones from 1902 because nobody took care of replying to the patent office and they were cancelled without being valid, just for some minor details as the lack of scale in the drawings or that the title did not corresponded exactly in the patent text with the one in the filing form. I guess Figuera just filed the 1902 patents to sell them inmediately to the bankers, and later bankers did not take any care of correcting those smalls mistakes. Obviously their intention was not to commercialice those generators....so why to take care of patents. Better to leave it die and be forgotten.

This is from wikipedia:

[marathonman]

The  dark  ages  still  reign over all  humanity, and  the  depth  and persistence     of  this domination   are only  now    becoming clear.    This dark   ages   prison   has no  steel bars, chains, or  locks.  Instead, it is locked by misorientation   and   built   on   misinformation.   Caught    up in  a   plethora   of   conditioned   reflexes  and driven   by   the   human  ego, both   warden   and   prisoner  attempt  meagerly to compete with God.     All    are  intractably   skeptical   of   what  they   do   not understand.      We  are   powerfully   imprisoned   in   these  dark   ages simply  by   the   terms  in  which   we   have   been  conditioned   to  think.

-- R. Buckminsiter Fulle


it's time to think outside the box people.

Quote; "is placed in communication with a resistance whose value varies from maximum to minimum and vise versa, and for that reason the  resistance is connected to the electromagnets N on one side and to electromagnet S on the other."

where in God's name does it say RESISTORS ? probably right next to where it says NORTH and SOUTH POLES.

the resistance he is referring to is reluctance formed from the magnetic field caused by the winding's on the core.  as it spins the reluctance (resistance to currant flow) is varied because as the currant flows through the wire it will cause a magnetic field that resists currant flow according to the number of winding on the core of part G.
self explanatory, the more winding's you have the more reluctance (resistance to currant flow) you have and less winding's the more currant will flow.  so when the brush rotates the currant is varied between set N and set S. part G's winding's magnetic field allows more or less currant through thus varying the field between set N and set S.
it does not take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out people, all it takes is for you to get off your butts and do the experiments your self to prove the validity of these simple truths.
if you so chose to follow a person that follows a drawing that says it is just a drawing to convey an idea or action. then there is NO HOPE for this FORUM.
Stupidity is free experiments are not and takes action..... which do you chose is entirely up to you.

[NRamaswami]

Marathonman: I'm sorry I missed out the Nichrome wire post of yours.

Unfortunately I'm not able to understand any of this logic. It is very confusing.

Earlier when Core made a proposition Hanon asked him not to post saying that this thread is meant only to redo the same device exactly. The postings of Marathonman were of the same type. Hanon is now agreeing..Do not understand head of tail of the stands. 

Now Hanon is showing the Patent claims that show resistance is present. Marathonman says has no need to rely on the drawings.

Patents are interpreted based on specification and drawings and abstrct for prior art search and based on claims for enforcement of legal rights obtained. Patent is granted only for claimed subject matter but claims must have antecedent support in specification and drawings to be granted.

I have tried to vary the amount of current that goes in to multiple primary electromagnts N and S and the result is not good. Only when the electromagnets are equal in intensity very good results are obtained.  This is in AC.

It is possible that this is an interrupted DC type of induction. It is possible to get a secondary output only when the magnetic field is varying. That happens in AC, pulsed Dc and possibly interrupted DC.

High outputs in secondary come only with High Voltage inputs. I have lowered the voltage and increased the current using step down transformers and used both AC and pulsed DC varying the current without any useful effect. High Voltage and possibly High Frequency is needed.

The Electronics based High Frequency is practically useless. The resistors are 5 watt or maximum 10 watt rated normally. What is the use of trying to make a circuit with a 1 to 10 watt resistor when we are trying to use a 30 Amp and 60 volt rated transistor to create high frequency output. Naturally the circuit boards fry up. I think both Randy and I wasted a lot on Electronics.

Given the difficulties with rotary device, it is best to go to the the capacitors and spark plugs to create the input source.

I'm still doubtful that the rotary device was used to generate very high voltages from a small battery. I can confirm that a 12 volt battery can be used to create high sparks when the rotary device rotates at 1000 RPM. That must be a lot of voltage. 

The spark if captured by large copper plate capacitor would have had sufficient voltage and amperage and then all this talk of needing a small output from the secondary being used to power the rotary device  to excite the electromagnet and the DC motor to run the rotary device makes sense. Copper plate capacitors are not mentioned or perhaps the rotary contacts themselves acted as capacitors.

Otherwise none of my experiments except when saturating the core show the patent to be possible.

The resistors may have been used to waste excess current and retain the voltage or increase the voltage if there was no spark. V=IR in Pulsed DC or interrupted DC as well. If the resistance is increased the voltage must go up.

Patent may be talking about varying the current while it might have been the effect of Voltage increase and decrease in opposing electromagnets. Even if there is no spark if the contact points are made DC Parallel Plate capacitors ( very easy to do) the capacitance and voltage would have increased immediately. Normal capacitors have lower capacitance with increased voltage rating. Higher the voltage higher the output is what I have observed.

Let me wait for what Marathonman produces and see what it does. 

[hanon]

Once the machine is operating where does the power come from to operate it? If it comes from the machine itself why would i care how much it uses to operate?

Seems that wasting 100 watts in heat is not good to produce 20,000 watts output, as Buforn claimed in his patents.

I do not know why we are arguing when the essential idea is to move the two magnetic fields back and forth, no matter how to do it.

[bajac]

This nonsense can only be explained with one word: JEALOUSNESS!

I mean, I do not understand why I am being attacked just because I was able to make a paper on the Figuera's device based on the sketch, only.

Think about it. I have never said that the sketches are more important than the writing in a patent, or vise versa. I did say that I liked the paper that way because it was not driven by the writing in the patent. Nevertheless, I was right on the money.

Instead of going ballistic because I was able to make the paper on the Figuera's sketch only, why don't you tell me whatever is wrong with the paper. Of course, I can only accept substantiated and analytic claims. Not just broad statements that have no scientific support.

I am sorry for you guys, but I cannot help with your suffering!