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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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kolbacict

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 16, 2023, 11:57:20 AM



Please excuse my openness  kolbacict but what do you plan on doing with that motor?
It just surprised me with very low revs and good torque.
I wanted to see what it had inside. :)

Cadman

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 16, 2023, 11:57:20 AM
Quote; "Completely different machine"

  I don't think so and I think everyone has it wrong. Why would Figuera build a non moving generator then switch to a rotating for two patents then switch back to non- moving again. He did not and the entire series was a drum secondary that rotated but the two groups of patents were worded slightly different to appear as different.

The only non-moving patent is the 1908 patent with opposing electromagnets which in my mind of years of combing these threads on line that everyone has them misunderstood but just a few which are no loner on this forum.

Why would you ask such a silly question as it was quite obvious as to the sale of his 1902 series of patents to the banker. Any other silly questions as i do need a good chuckle now and then lol!

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Academic Curiosity.

I can only go by what the original researcher discovered about these patents. There were patents for both versions in 1902, all 4 granted within a few days of each other so I have doubts the numbers have any significance other than the order the patent clerks handled them.

https://alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258
This is the original place I read about the invention and the sale notice. It doesn't provide any indication other than the translated word, patent, is singular. I've never seen any evidence that the bankers bought all of 4 of the 1902 patents, although they may have as you say. Is there any actual evidence one way or the other? If they only bought the rotating version it might explain why all future patents for Buforn were for the motionless generators and lend credence to the 1902 rotating version.

Lacking any real evidence it's all supposition for sure.

BTW, glad you were amused.


kolbacict

For me, the only thing that remains incomprehensible is the purpose of a thick wire wound with a snake around permanent magnets.  Shown with a red arrow.
The ends are brought out, but not connected anywhere (not used).

bistander

I have a similar motor with such a wire. I believe it is a series field coil used to strengthen the field during current inrush preventing armature reaction demagnetization of permanent magnets.
bi

IMIGHTKNOW

It makes no sense to keep a patent when you sell it to another meaning they have all rights to that patent and any such slight variant of said patent. So that leads me to believe the 1802 patents were sold to the bankers which they all rotated. But unbeknownst to the bankers he had already figured out how to make it stationary instilling the same attributes of a standard rotating generator in a nonmoving scenario.

I am just curious, what does that motor have to do with the Figuera device? Is it part of a build?.