Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Cadman]

Hi all.
Nice idea Cadman, did you try it out yet? Maybe compare hanon's version vs yours...
Finally a path forward, THX.

Dann

I confess I haven't tried it as I'm not yet convinced this is how Figuera did it or that it could result in a gain. It's high on the list of possibilities. I was referring to Hanon's video example, which did show that opposing poles were better, but doing it without physical movement.

When I shelved that build years ago I resolved to not try another Figuera build until I was convinced about the proper method forward. I have been searching ever since and I still believe in it. That build did teach me a few things though. It's still sitting on the top shelf in the garage where it's been for about 6 years now, waiting to be resurrected.

[floodrod]

This is what I mean

Thanks Cadman..  I too think this Clemente Generator is one of the few that may be legit..  Lots of testing to do..

PS. The bar in the middle looks like some kind of reinforcement of some kind as it looks to be on top of the cores. The core will have a lot of force on them during the switching which mean they will need to be secured in some way.
Any thoughts?

It does appear that way.. But why draw in a support bar?  And if it was a support bar, it's the most ridiculously designed support bar I ever seen.  I think it's the core only going 1/2 way into each electromagnet so the induced core has 2 clear polarities exactly divided at the middle of the induced coil.

I am not convinced tho that 2 same polarity electromagnets poles is the correct way.  Not saying it is not correct- just saying I am not convinced yet.

I have theories, but even more important I have the willingness and supplies to test the theories. What I do know for certain is if we place an electromagnet on an induction coil, Turning the amperage UP makes the induced current go 1 way.  And turning the supply current DOWN makes the induced current go the other way.  So it appears that using 2 same polarities will indeed create the most induction  (as the coil has 2 poles)..  But are we after ultimate induction, or bypassing Lenz?

My theory is as follows:

North coming in to top of induced turns Top of induced North.  induced EMF in driving coil travels same direction as input when magnetic fields are going against the way they want to go. (trying to bring 2 repelling fields together is against the way magnets want to go).

North traveling away from bottom of induced turns bottom of coil South.  Also resulting in 2 magnetic fields against the way they want to go.  (South want to attract North, but we are pulling them apart)..

Both actions result in GREAT induction as the referenced video shows.  But both have Full Lenz passing all produced power to the input because induced EMF in the driving circuit all travels same way as input like a transformer.

But if they were opposite polarities, induction would be weaker, but one side would send induced EMF with input, and other side against input- thus cancelling Lenz..

I know the rebuttal will be "We are not moving coils"...  But it matters not..  I already tested..  Power an electromagnet and bring it into an induction coil and watch the current direction on the scope.  Now place electromagnet against induction coil and turn up amperage.  Whether the electromagnet is moving closer, or just the flux field growing, growing is growing and the induction current direction goes the same in both circumstances.

Finally one might say- sure we cancel lenz, but we lose all induction in the process.  And I agree- my model appears to show that.  But those half cores that only touch one side of the coil may be answer how we can cancel lenz but work the magnetization of the core to induct the induced coil with no lenz.

Anyway- My theories are just my beliefs and not proven fact. They are subject to change as new info comes in and as I test..  Or until someone else makes a self-runner.. 

[IMIGHTKNOW]

Interesting. The rod is very puzzling to say the least. I have done a few test but more now that my stuff is arriving.

"(trying to bring 2 repelling fields together is against the way magnets want to go)."

But isn't that compressing the field lines?

[floodrod]

I will share this someone sent me..

North coming in turns coil NORTH.  North going out turns coil SOUTH.  Same facing coils produces standard induction..  YES Hanna's test shows this way inducing great...  But you get 100% Lenz effect.

Now North IN, South OUT Cancels Lenz..  But output sucks..  This is all standard stuff most have us have experimented with bucking generator coils.

UNLESS...  Unless the 1/2 cores do something special..  Perhaps the setup cancels Lenz but the way the core maintains magnetism, the induced can still induct some..  So Clemente needed like 8 of these coil rigs to induct enough to self run.

[floodrod]

"(trying to bring 2 repelling fields together is against the way magnets want to go)."

But isn't that compressing the field lines?

The Clemente generator empty's one coil as it fills another like a teeter totter..  There is no "Compression"..  The input is varying to the 2 coils in equal amounts.  We aren't jamming full current to both coils to "compress" fields.. 

Furthermore-  evaluate "One is filling while the other is emptying"...  If they were the same polarity, they would both be filling at the same time, just at different rates. 

My whole statement is rudimentary.   Take an induction coil and a strong magnet..  Power the coil with a DC supply at a locked voltage..   Now push the strong magnet into the coil so it is repelling (against what way it wants to go), and watch the Supply Amperage..

Understanding what direction current travels when different magnetic fields are interfaced with each other in different directions is pivotal to understanding how energy machines are really working.