Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[SolarLab]

Thanks Maddmann-  I viewed the patent but can't clearly make out the coil arrangements.  I don't mind trying things, and yes I have many dozens of coil styles to play with. But I would need a clearer diagram of the coil arrangement to duplicate.

SL- Can you show which Figuera image has a completed path?  They all look incomplete to me, even the 1908. I agree tho that we probably didn't receive the correct complete coil arrangement.

It was from #30378 (attached) - the picture attached to the patent (source ?) - is found in Hanon's collection.

Not a big deal - just that when doing magnetic stuff, I've found that the "Magnetic Circuit" - when considered as
part of the overall design - can (and in most cases does) make a real difference.

In the attached pictiure from the patent, the "octagon ring" around the outside "completes the magnetic circuit."
[bottom drawing - side view]


SL

[SolarLab]

The books I referenced re: "Magnetic Circuits" are:

Practical Transformer Handbook by Irving Gottlieb
(magnetic circuit referenced throught - search)

Introduction To AC Machine Design by Thomas A. Lipo
(magnetic circuit referenced throught - search)

[try pdfdrive]


Also, for a quick look try:

https://iopscience.iop.org/book/mono/978-0-7503-2084-9/chapter/bk978-0-7503-2084-9ch1

[table 1.1 - Analogy of an Electric Circuit and a Magnetic Circuit]

[floodrod]

SL,

The coil arrangements are probably a big part.  But I am not sold on connecting the path closed yet.  Even the diagram you posted, only the negatives are closed. And Electromagnets "A" are totally separate from Electromagnets "B".  On neither side is there a magnetic path provided for the flux to travel from North to South of any electromagnet.  And on the 1908 patent, (including Buforn's) it appears there is only a center core in the center induced, which extends under 1/2 way into the primary electromagnets. But neither end electromagnet have a full core, nevermind a complete enclosed core.

And trust me, I have tried with a fully closed path, 3 coil transformer, 4 coil transformer, open path, half core, and every other way you can probably imagine.  But the secret recipe remains elusive to me.

Actually I recently posted a pic where I used 3 groups Figura style coils that have 2 outside inducers with 1 induced in the center. The core goes through the middle and extends 1/2 way into each outside electromagnet.  I will attach it again below.

Seems Cifta caught the gist of the device as I see it..  The waves are obviously positive biased.  And N and N face each other.  But when the machine is in action and working, the electromagnets no longer are N and N.  They become N and S to match Figuera's labels...  The growing North actually pushes the Shrinking North past the zero line, thus Making it South..

The gain mechanism is that part exactly.  We get Full South induction power on one side while the electromagnet is hooked up in the direction where it should be North!  So Lorentz reciprocal action occurs as normal, but the primaries input wires are reversed!

As I stated many times, I think the missing ingredient is the electrical connection link between the weakening and growing coils, which the original resistor rig provided.  The weakening electromagnet must allow current to flow to the growing electromagnet, but we should NEVER allow the growing electromagnets current to connect to the shrinking.  So the Lorentz reciprocation that the shrinking magnet absorbs can flow to the growing electromagnet.

What I am saying is that the original resistor rig may be necessary.  Unless we find a way to switch diodes on both sides every 1/2 wave. 

[SolarLab]

Hi Floodrod,

For clarification, when refering to "Magnetic Circuit" it might be more descriptive to
refer to this as "the Flux Path."

Anyway, if you have a chance, take a look at Lipo's book, in particular starting at
1.26 thru 1.30 to get a feel for the needed flux path, including a return flux path.

This all considers how the "Iron" and "Air Gaps" integrate within a "Flux Path," including
the "Flux Return Path" to complete the "Magnetic Circuit."  Hard to explain in a brief
paragraph or two - that's why I referenced the books. [See 1.28 in Lipo.]

Magnetic Fields don't do well traveling through any length of air and will likely not do well
trying to find a magnetic circuit flux path in a split longitudinal setup (end to end in a
straight line), the "air gap" is too long and the flux isn't directed in any way.

Whatever... I could be totally wrong, so take it FWIW. But in your picture I only see "3 coils"
sitting in free space, along side several more "3 coil" sets, - if you were a flux looking for
some direction, or path, including a return path, where would you go?

Regards,

SL

[rakarskiy]

https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg578180/#msg578180

Hello!

You stepped on the same rake as the previous researcher, in terms of the magnetic circuit of the Figuera generator.



My little analysis of Figuera's patents and what and where intersects with systems, including missing patents. If the buyer buys a patent and rights, then obviously he wants to be the sole owner.



In the drawing patent No. 30378 Figuera, there are two planes transverse and longitudinal.


Sincerely, I wish you success.