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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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bistander

Quote from: rakarskiy on May 22, 2023, 10:05:22 AM
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It is technically impossible to fulfill such a condition. I tried to do this many times. If a groove is used, then there will be no magnetic lines of force in the groove that will cross the inductor wire. In the cavity of the groove, the magnetic induction will be several times less, which will not allow the formation of conditions for the fulfillment of the formula: E=Bmlv
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Hello Mr. Rakarskiy,
Yet all these (millions) of motors and generators work extremely well using wires in grooves. Perhaps you need to adjust your understanding of the process. This may be helpful. In the video, he explains how energy is "carried" not in the wire, but rather in field around the wire. The steel of the core surrounding the groove facilitate these fields. Force results from field interaction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0

A side note. Often claimed in these field motion generator schemes is that there is no force (or torque). This is untrue. There is force resulting per Lorentz. However there is the machine structure providing a counter force not allowing any motion. Since no motion, no displacement, there is no energy associated with said force. But the force is still present.
bi

rakarskiy

Quote from: bistander on May 22, 2023, 10:55:39 AM
Hello Mr. Rakarskiy,
Yet all these (millions) of motors and generators work extremely well using wires in grooves. Perhaps you need to adjust your understanding of the process. This may be helpful. In the video, he explains how energy is "carried" not in the wire, but rather in field around the wire. The steel of the core surrounding the groove facilitate these fields. Force results from field interaction.

Hello!

I'm just not denying that it works, the question is how it works and the whole process for half a degree of a whole period. . I gave a slide of the EMF generator in the thread about Holcomb.
The figure in the patent also lacks elements. I submit that the patents have been redacted. He outlined his version in his book in some detail.
Can you tell how a transformer works? but as a generator, what is their parity and what is the difference.
I have too many rakes on the official version of the processes.
I will again disappear for a while, otherwise I had a difficult period, unfinished business accumulated, including on the issue of interest.

Sincerely.

Cadman

The missing patent page?

This is a page from the Buforn patent 57955.
Download the attached .png and zoom in and out on the blank area just above the signatures and look around. Do you see it?
It looks like an electrical diagram and it could possibly be ink transferred from a page pressing against this drawing page, like would happen with the pages stored in a file folder for a long time. It's all over the drawing.

:o

floodrod

A fine builder I speak to from Spain who does not post anywhere shared some fascinating build videos with me.

Although we are going through translators, he thinks the Figuera Coils are built similar to Thane Hanes bi-torroid.  Which explains Buforn's drawings and anomalies..

You can see for some reason he draws the core on top of the coils. That "Know-it-all" user thought it was clamps holding the coils down, I thought it was partial cores, but what this builder from span says makes sense.. 

The analysis he puts forth says that Buforn's drawing is the Top-View..  If viewed from the side, it would look like Thane Heinz transformer with the 3 coils inside a closed core. (possible with air gaps)   He shows a video to me of his setup lowering input current when shorting the pickup coil..

Something to consider..  And it makes sense with Buforn's drawing.

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Ufopolitics on May 22, 2023, 09:03:10 AM
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Note on the Figuera Patent image, shown on Floodrod's previous post, where it shows the array of N-S with the "Y" member (output) sandwhiched between...please note a "rectangle shaped" component which travels between all three parts exactly in their center [[N]-[y]-[S]]
Wouldn't this rectangle indicates to have a single core between all three coils parts?

Ufopolitics

Hello Floodrod,
Yes, and that was exactly what I have pointed out on my previous post yesterday, quoted above.
Now, the question is...Why does that rectangle does not runs all the way from end to end to both primaries?
IMHO, Figuera wanted to concentrate the field mostly on the "y" output coil(s), not all the way back of primaries, where the field will travel too far away from secondary part "y".
Also, IMO, I do not think it had air gaps between primaries and y part, just one solid piece of laminated steel right inside the coils.
Now, I know that according to CAD drawing conventions, if this rectangle was supposed to be inside coils it should have been done with dotted lines.
So, maybe it was done intentionally to bring it up to attention, or it was just an error from whoever did the drawings...it happens.
Not disregarding the possibility to be an E- Frame like a typical transformer have...but then again the question: why not draw it all the way to the end of each primary if it was so?

Regards

Ufopolitics
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