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Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered

Started by aether22, October 07, 2012, 07:39:45 PM

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aether22

I did an experiment today that seems to have created a super simple FE principle effect.


I won't go into all the detail of why I thought the experiment should work, but I will give a super quick outline.
Einstein in his 1905 paper on SR spent much of it showing that magnetic fields are just a relativistic distortion of electric fields and that the expected forces can be arrived at without and magnetic field.
Furthermore I found (I don't know if it is considered conventional) that if you double the velocity of a moving charge you quadruple the forces that occur from it, but when I did the math/logic on it I found that did not mean some of the things I would have thought. (doubling the drift velocity in a coil but keeping the same ampere turns would not increase the magnetic forces)


Anyway EM induction is also readily explained by purely electrical effects, as the electrons are accelerated their electric fields are bent similar to moving a hose side to side. This creates a bend in the electric field that is consistent with the inductive field we find around a wire.


THE EXPERIMENT


If you have a thin wire and a thick wire carrying an equal current it is accepted that the drift velocity in the thin wire will be higher than that of the thick wire, similar to what occurs when a thick and thin pipe in series carries water.


So I made a coil consisting of 2 equal lengths of the thickest and thinnest wire I had and connected in series with a hairpin bend forming a series bucking bifilar, there is an equal number of CW and CCW ampere turns causing Ampere to predict no magnetic field.
But what of the inductive field?  Turns out that due to the steeper acceleration in the thin wire it's inductive influence is greater!


I connected this coil up to a signal generator and connected a regular air core coil to an oscilloscope, and there is a signal!
The non inductive coil creates an inductive field!


But could it be some capacitive coupling between the 2 coils?
No, orienting the non inductive coil to right angles relative to the pickup coil removes the magnetic coupling and the signal despite keeping capacitive coupling if it had been the cause.


So it is inductive!


But could the input be making it more through just one of the series connected coils than the other? (it is perhaps 30 turns of each)
Well I could lower the frequency to just 1.5khz and it still worked (lower than this given the weak input and poor coupling is improbable to work).
Also the signal is input to the thin wire and the thick is the ground, so it is not as if the signal is reflecting at the join as it might if connected the other way and reflected of an increased resistance.


Now this coil might create a net inductive field, but it would very unlikely to be induced!


This gives us a likely way of making a transformer where the primary can induce the secondary, but the secondary has no impact on the primary.


The experiment is faster to try than to explain!


This is apparently a FE effect as there is no likely way for the secondary to have any effect on the primary.
This could lead to a very simple OU device that can power it's self and produce usable power.

?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

TinselKoala

Can you make another two hairpin bifilar non-inductive coils, but using the same wire thicknesses? That is, make one with the thick wire throughout, and one with the thin wire throughout, using the same geometry as your test coil.

Then test all three coils by the same method you report above. Is there a great difference in your experimental coil, from the other two?

aether22

Good idea!


I tried a coil with all thin wire, but have not tried nor do I currently intend to test the thick/thick currently.
The bucking bifilar coil made of all thin wire did not seem to have any magnetic coupling, though there were points of frequency where there was something this appeared distinctly in sharp resonant frequencies indicating it was working in just one halves of the coil.


Sometimes it induced a frequency when I turned the oscilloscope frequency up, but that didn't go away when I reoriented the coil, clearly it was capacitive.


No promises, but so far it looks to be a genuine effect.


My next test will be to increase the current and reduce the frequency because that would rule out any faint possibility of one half of the coil having greater current.


I will also continue to test the non-inductive symmetrical thin thin coil.

?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

penno64

Hi Aether,

You have my interest.

Sounds so much like Jack's tranformers.

Regards, Penno

aether22

I tried putting the 2 bifilar coils in series, one which is thin and think, the other one is thin-thin.


I picked a different air core coil to use as the pickup coil, I then held the pickup coil near the 2 series connected bucking bifilars.


The result was that again there was a very noticeable and obvious definitively magnetic induction field that required correct orientation around the asymmetric one, and no field that could be seen on the same scope settings around the other one.


This coil is definitively demonstrating magnetic inductance and if it were due to some capacitive or HF based effect it should have shown up around both coils.


The most certain test would be to input the maximum current I can into the thin coil at a low frequency, I may use an autotransformer and try connecting it to the grid.


But I encourage others to jump in and try this, the water is warm!


Penno64, please inform me about that the transformer you speak of. thx
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes