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Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered

Started by aether22, October 07, 2012, 07:39:45 PM

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aether22

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Neo-X

U forgot something.. If you use thinner coil with high current, this would result in an increase resistance.

aether22

Not forgotten, just not critical, indeed in theory you could use superconductive wire.
Since both coils are in series in most tests, but that may explain the high voltage out of the thicker wire.
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Neo-X

Imho there is a trade off here. Current is the amount of electrons passing in 1 second. If you use thick and thin wire with the same length connected in series, the electron passing in thin wire might increase in speed but it will reduce the density of electrons flow in the wire. On the other hand the electrons on thick wire is slow but has a higher density. So the total amount of current and ofcourse magnetic field is equal that will result in zero mutual induction.

aether22

Yes, but if you double the electron velocity (keeping the same density for a moment), do you get double or quadruple the effects from the moving charge?
I went through some logic that would say it is quadruple, but when you consider the static protons and such the magnetic force would stay the same at an equivalent ampere turns, but the inductive field I had reason to believe is different.


It is worth noting that it has been proven that rotating a magnet on it's longitudinal voltage axis increases the radial voltage (homopolar generator), which is the same as Hooper's motional E-field, if the magnet were an electromagnet that would require that the increase was consistent with quadrupling when you double the velocity because the protons create a magnetic field also.


So if the number of electrons moving halves but the velocity with which they move doubles that could still result in a doubling of the force they create.


Anyway arguing the theory isn't going to get us anywhere, it is worth noting that so far online calculators do predict a different value despite the same ampere turns, even with a single turn, are they wrong?


So I have results from 2 coils that create an inductive field, but I made another one that for some unknown reason didn't give the same results, Not yet sure why. Maybe it disproves the effect, or there may be another reason, I have done way too little testing on it yet.
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