Crystal Cell Research

[Allwest]

Charging the crystal cell with a candle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLM6p_mHyHk

[Allwest]

rechargeable magnesium battery cell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7bS0VXlTE

[halfvulcan]

I have no idea at all what response this will get, but considering I'm new to posting among hard-working researchers doing things the right way, unlike myself, it probably won't be taken well. But it's gotta be said, because it's killing me not to have a clue about this. Fix me if I need it. I can take it.

Allwest, you are getting results I've never seen before, and I really want to try whatever it is you're doing, especially with this new breakthrough rechargeable cell. I've noticed you aren't releasing details about the materials used, or maybe I just haven't looked in the right place. If you aren't releasing details, I'm curious about why, if you don't mind me asking? I'll accept your answer whatever it is, I mean, what other choice do I have? It just seems like our entire species is at a crucial crossroads between consolidation of unofficial slavery over all or freedom for all, and I'd be slow to actually call someone selfish for holding back for recognition or profit, but it seems like those who oppose freedom take advantage of these tendencies in inventors to supress things. Inventors who make real breakthroughs often have "accidents" before they can release their stuff.

I've been making some of these crystal cells and had some success with them powering a nightlight, but lack money to really wade into the waters of research.  What you've done is about the greatest thing I've seen in battery research. I realize you're still testing it and trying variations, etc., but I'd really love to know the secret ingredient, or just the ingredients. Maybe it isn't secret and I just haven't looked where you posted it.

[mscoffman]

halfvucan;
In the interest of starting some communication on this topic I am putting my view of batteries on here.

I am interested in weak electrolyte batteries using their standing voltage and currents. An interesting design
uses the outside case of Acid/Lead Cells with the electrolytes dumped out, called dry acid/lead batteries
and replacement of the electrolyte with a weaker one. They can be charged to some extent and then
their standing voltage is higher for awhile. Because they are designed robustly to handle high currents
and wear of strong electrolytes they should give good lifetimes in this service.

You can google the names in here and generally you will find an interesting story behind each.

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I've noticed there seems to be some confusion on batteries based on the way they are named and used.

Strong Electrolyte - Storage Batteries.  These are big, bad and used for energy storage and playback.
they are highly ionic and can use very large charge/discharge currents. The venerable Acid/Lead Batteries
are in this group. They transfer metals between their electro-poles, therefore are prone to wear. Strong
Electrolyte batteries either need water added or catalytically recombine the H+O. This group includes
Alum Batteries which are weakly acidic. And Iron Edison Alkaline KOH Batteries. This group "boils" =>
electrolyze their electrolytic fluid during recharge so lost water needs replacement.

Weak Electrolyte Batteries - Energy Generators. These operate with chemistries similar to Strong Electrolyte Batteries
but have something called standing voltage and current - they won't discharge below their standing voltage.
A good example is the Karpen's Pile Batteries. In this the electrolyte is strong but can't dissolve the gold/platinum
electrodes. The weakest example is a water battery. There is generally no metal transfer or corrosion at the poles of
these batteries. But they can electrolyze water which will need to be re-added.
 
Semi-Crystal Cells These are known as hydrate crystal cells. Some water is either added or from humidity in
the air. Both hydrate and true crystal cells can often be made from the previous two by drying their
electrolytes out. They have an inherent standing voltage and current but one has to either add small
amounts water or have it be available in the air. I think they make some use of ionic transfer in their
limited aqueous environments. An interesting subgroup is David Bowling Sensor/Transducer Batteries
which makes use of sulfur crystals. These Semi-Crystal cells retain some water internally as hydrates. 
The Energenx permanent lamp uses this group, lasersabers cells and concrete batteries are interesting.

True-Crystal Cells Batteries They are non-galvanic and are usually sealed from the environment
to exclude water or galvanic activity including corrosion. I believe they are powered by intercepting
Petrolithic Energy. Their voltages never decrease with use. But due to their non-ionic/crystal makeup
have somewhat lower powers. This group includes Marcus Reid Cells available on ebay,
Zamboni High Voltage Piles, Ian Middleton's cells on overunity.com                                             


:S:MarkSCoffman

[halfvulcan]

That is a nice neat categorization of the types of cells.  I have become pretty well acquainted with the differences between these things, but the mind finds it useful to have the extra order and differentiation. Somebody (I need to find out who) once referred to these crystal cells as less batteries than "electron pumps".  I think Ibpointless was the one who said they're more like self-charging capacitors than they are like batteries. I'm confused about the differences between batteries and capacitors to begin with. But I know I could find out again in less time than it took to type this nonsense.