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Crystal Cell Research

Started by plengo, October 29, 2012, 06:08:15 PM

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halfvulcan

I had another thought. And it hurt,  :P  but in a good way.
Okay, wrap your noodles around this one. These cells respond to vibrations, be it heat, pressure on the cell, etc.. What if the "bottleneck" factor in how much our cells are producing is less about the amount of metal or crystal, but more about the amount of energy the crystals are being allowed to take as input? What if we added a leverage factor to amplify it? Like an antenna coming from the cell? Like hold the cell by the outside and let the anode stick way up like an antenna? Maybe the crystal cell could then convert more energy into usable current? Physically, we can guess that grasping the extended anode and pressing on it should give us some feedback, so also would wind, but maybe other energy waves as well? And then perhaps, something "cheaper" could be used as an antenna. For instance, if this idea worked to increase the current input/output to the cell, you could try not having the extra core material sticking out, but instead, weld whatever cheap materials to see if they increase the current by the same amount. No idea if this idea has any merit.

I'm sure I can't be the first to think of this. The Trawöger Power Pyramid might be based on a similar idea if I understand it right.I don't know with any certainty that the power pyramid isn't a fraud. There are often, I find, things put out there to mislead people into wasting time and resources. The "Federal" "Reserve" and its owners surely aren't the originators of that concept.

ibpointless2

Everybody is asking the wrong questions. You have 2 types of batteries - Battery_A is a normal battery that dies off - Battery_B is the opposite of Battery_A because it does not die. My goal for the crystal cells was to be Battery_B. I want a battery that did not die off and if it did it would recharge itself. So to make Battery_B you must ask what causes Battery_A to die?

mscoffman

ibpointlees2;


On a slightly different subject,have you had any successes with using the Pb / PbO2 dry acid/lead battery
cores? I am trying to find the "secret" electrolyte that optimizes standing power. This is so I can compute
the ratio f(@electrolyte) = (standing power(@delta t) / avg. power discharge at C20 rate (@delta t). 
The two weak electrolyte batteries that I use for models are the Karpen's Pile and the Water Battery
that were discussed here on overunity.com. I suspect that strongly ionic solutions are required for
the storage battery function. These split the charge and discharge voltages apart and a responsible
for the determanistic storage function. By the way I consider that an Alum battery is a strong
electrolyte cell so the result may be weakly acidic but enough to preserve the storage function. I
liked your oil electrolyte but am trying to have one that I can rinse out and restore to sulphuric acid
or other electrolyte to restore cell function if I don't like the result.  I suspect that charge on the crystal
cell battery tend to travel on the surface of the crystal while the weak electrolyte battery will have current
scaling like that of acid/leads # plates and cell volume ect.  So I want to move up the Ah rate scale in different
size cores to see if this is so.  I doubt that the substitue electrolyte will produce cycle count and cycle depth
wear in the battery. If so then the weak electrolyte battery lifetime will equal shelf lifetime of the charged battery.
I was watching a video where Bedini charged this type of battery with his scalar charger when the whole Bedini
section was deleted from energeticforum.com. So I may be onto something. :-) Anyone else can chime in if
they know any secrets. Wanta see something really bizarre? type "dry charge batteries" into U.S. ebay.com
search function.


:S:MarkSCoffman

ibpointless2

Quote from: mscoffman on April 13, 2014, 08:45:26 PM
ibpointlees2;


On a slightly different subject,have you had any successes with using the Pb / PbO2 dry acid/lead battery
cores? I am trying to find the "secret" electrolyte that optimizes standing power. This is so I can compute
the ratio f(@electrolyte) = (standing power(@delta t) / avg. power discharge at C20 rate (@delta t). 
The two weak electrolyte batteries that I use for models are the Karpen's Pile and the Water Battery
that were discussed here on overunity.com. I suspect that strongly ionic solutions are required for
the storage battery function. These split the charge and discharge voltages apart and a responsible
for the determanistic storage function. By the way I consider that an Alum battery is a strong
electrolyte cell so the result may be weakly acidic but enough to preserve the storage function. I
liked your oil electrolyte but am trying to have one that I can rinse out and restore to sulphuric acid
or other electrolyte to restore cell function if I don't like the result.  I suspect that charge on the crystal
cell battery tend to travel on the surface of the crystal while the weak electrolyte battery will have current
scaling like that of acid/leads # plates and cell volume ect.  So I want to move up the Ah rate scale in different
size cores to see if this is so.  I doubt that the substitue electrolyte will produce cycle count and cycle depth
wear in the battery. If so then the weak electrolyte battery lifetime will equal shelf lifetime of the charged battery.
I was watching a video where Bedini charged this type of battery with his scalar charger when the whole Bedini
section was deleted from energeticforum.com. So I may be onto something. :-) Anyone else can chime in if
they know any secrets. Wanta see something really bizarre? type "dry charge batteries" into U.S. ebay.com
search function.


:S:MarkSCoffman


Its best to stick with acid in those lead acid batteries. Alum and water will work but the way those pre-manufactured batteries are setup and configure is with sulfuric acid. Be careful with battery acid.


I looked into the ebay thing you pointed out and didn't see anything odd.

Mr. Teslonian

I had a junk 12V 7 Ah 10 year old SLA. It had zero volts, never took any charge.

I washed it with baking soda and rinsed with distilled water. Then I added a very concentrated hot solution of 99.99 percent purified Alum and distilled water. Put it on charge overnight.

It not only got charged but regains its voltage after every use without charging. And I know what I am saying.

Its a strange behaviour. But the battery acts like a spring, it regains its voltage to 11.9 to 12.5 after every use in 4 to 5 hours. It was amusing but it happened.