Friction heater running in my house

[lancaIV]

Question: how many btu's/joules/calories are really needed for a given volume and temperature ?
                (without air movement inside/outside, ambient humidity )

                                heater  solutions are for example :
                           cavitation/friction heater and/or heat pumps or F-IR-emissor/radiator

              http://www.iwilltry.org/b/heat-your-home-with-a-dehumidifier/

                   http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/cavitationheaters.htm
                   Griggs or the Perkins-Pope"kinetic furnace" with a c.o.p. above 1

                                friction/cavitation heater with c.o.p. >= 5 ? 
                         http://www.top-topeni.eu/en/tkt-perun-system

                  http://wabi.tv/2013/07/24/searsmont-man-invents-new-heating-system/
                              https://www.facebook.com/FOSMANDEVICE

                                            heat pump  example
                        http://www.fujitsugeneral.co.nz/faq-s#faqnoanchor                         
           Why is it recently that a single heat pump can heat or cool very large areas?
It takes almost twice as much energy to heat a house from 2 degrees to 20 degrees as from 7 degrees to 20 degrees. So if you want to make sure you are going to get heating in all situations the heat pump needs to be sized correctly

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                                    oilpiggy gave as  details :
                    450 sqft. area  , 78° F (~ 25,5 °C)inside and 35-40°F( ~ 3°C) outside ,
                      warm air delivered  12 hours per day with a 600 W drive

I would estimate +/-  calculating with a 150 sqm floor/wall/tect volume surface area and 22,5 °C
temperature amplitude,material U-/K-value(~ R-value) 1,0 with a heat source up to 3500 Watt  per hour !

But he,oilpiggy,did not spent 3500 Watt x 24 h ,he wrote about 600 Watt x 12 hours/day
(why only 12 hours ? temperature related or being absent,no heat object  ?)

like Foster https://www.facebook.com/FOSMANDEVICE with his FOSMAN Device , heating 1400 sqft with an -up- to 1,5 hp(~ 1100 W nominal) drive !

                                                 "  1800 W ~ 300 W !  " ? 
                                                Prof. Dr. habil. H. Matschiner
https://www.infrarotheizung-experten.de/skin/frontend/default/theme417/images/media/studie3.pdf
So ist beispielsweise bekannt, dass eine 1800 W Heizung mit Glühdrähten und Keramikgrund nicht annähernd die Leistung einer 300 W IR-CNT-Heizung erbringt.
google translated :
For example, announced that a 1800 W heater with glow wires and ceramic base is not nearly renders the performance of a 300 W IR-CNT heating.


                                                  "   1800 W ~ 225 W " ! ?
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=WO&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=9628954&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.1&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
                                                    Application Example  1
A room with a capacity of 42 m3 was charged with a conventional heating power 1800 watt  (Heizstabheizung)  during  4  months at a constant temperature held from 22nd  An equally large room was kept in the same period of time with an apparatus according to the power 225 watts at the same temperature. 
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Can some professional give answer :

1.  It takes almost twice as much energy to heat a house from 2 degrees to 20 degrees as from 7 degrees to 20 degrees.

                            How do they calculate to get this statement ?

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Friction heater could become
                                                                            up to 90% less power consuming
  through better -pulsed power- geared edrives !

oilpiggies
600 W/450sqft.(~ 42sqm) e-consume down to 60 Watt/450sqft.(~42sqm)
would be a good solution,

or Mr.Fosters
1100W/130 sqm(~1400 sqft.) to 110 W/130 sqm(~ 1400 sqft.)

https://www.facebook.com/FOSMANDEVICE
The Fosman Device looks to make those high cost oil & propane burning furnace & heaters a thing of the past. The Fosman Device uses a combined 6 cylinders rotating within 6 larger cylinders seperated only by vegetable oil & powered by a 1/2hp to 1.5hp motor depending on the size of the space needing to be heated. Each individual cylinder running on 1/2hp motor can reach in excess of 300 degrees. The Fosman Device can reach temperature in as little as 20 minutes creating more than enough heat for the average 3 bedroom, 2 bath home for much less than anything currently available in the world today. The Fosman Device actually becomes more efficient & uses less & less wattage the hotter the device gets & due to it's patented pending design, the heater retains the heat much, much longer than any other heating system in the world. There is nothing out there currently that can make that claim.
If cost savings doesn't already have you foaming at the mouth, let's look at the safety & efficiency of the Fosman Device. The overall design of the Fosman Device will have the diameter of the average water heater & half the height. There are no fuel lines, no emissions, no leaks, no smell pipes, no exhaust fans & no chimneys needed. The Fosman Device will be able to be placed in just about any position, in any corner, rafter, etc. as long as there is a 110/220 volt plug & the home central duct work can be attached. Imagine the space this little buddy will free up in your current or new home, office or warehouse.

So, let's recap, the Fosman Device will be cheap to operate, eliminates any & all fossil fuels, wood, etc., can be placed just about anywhere, eliminates all kinds of pipes, chimneys, etc. & more than likely, will reduce your fire insurance as an added bonus & applications to heat your water as well.

Technical question to this statement : The Fosman Device uses a combined 6 cylinders rotating within 6 larger cylinders seperated only by vegetable oil & powered by a 1/2hp to 1.5hp motor depending on the size of the space needing to be heated.  Each individual cylinder running on 1/2hp motor can reach in excess of 300 degrees.

Each cylinder needs his own motor ? Or will an -up to 1,5 hp- motor serve all the 6 larger cylinder ?
cylinder=tube
http://wabi.tv/2013/07/24/searsmont-man-invents-new-heating-system/
The final product will include 6 tubes and a similar size motor.

Inventor tests new heating device at USM | Mainebiz.bizwww.mainebiz.biz/.../inventor-tests-new-heating-de...Diese Seite übersetzen27.08.2013 - Searsmont investor John Foster's heating cell in a laboratory at the ... to heat a three-bedroom home through the winter for $100-$120 a month.

                Which was the KWh-price 2012/2013 in Maine ?

Probably combinating it with point 5. here :
http://www.osmatech.net/page4.html

[mscoffman]

If you have a hot water heater that you believe is OU and
you are feeling your wheaties you can use the following
link to a real world device where you could close the loop.
You would have a radiator type heatsink to room temperature
producing a "cold" water room temperature return stream. 

Note that any heat producing thermal energy intermediary OU demo
device is difficult because you will need to offset Carnot inefficiency
to upgrade the thermal energy. This might need to involve a serial
thermal device, if requiured.

Web link for Organic Rankine Cycle Turbine Engine Genset and
specification data:

http://www.infinityturbine.com/

[lancaIV]

   (http://overunity.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)   Re: Friction heater running in my house  « Reply #115 on: January 11, 2013, 05:13:15 PM »  Quote
  Quote from: hartiberlin on January 11, 2013, 02:30:30 AM
860 Watts is a lot of power, if you need to produce this
during wintertime via solarpanels and the sky is overcasts...

John Cletus Williams, GA : it is a kind of magic    .... hope.....
                                        2000sqfts (~185sqm)  but only 400W ?

                            http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8300
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John Cletus Williams

Granted 2011 but now free  !?       http://www.google.com/patents/US8059946

As long as electricity is available using a proper light source, our system is able to produce thermal radiation heat. It will work off a wide range of alternating and direct current voltages. Our apparatus will produce high outputs of BTU's per watt of electricity used. It can be used in both stationary and mobile situations.
                                                     Non-(efficiently) functional ?

[CANGAS]

This is a wonderful Thread! And somehow I completely overlooked it until a day or two ago. No real surprise, I am a dummy's dummy.

My sincerest thanks to Thread Starter oilpiggy and everyone who has made a positive contribution here! There is a great wealth of good information and thought provoking ideas here. And maybe I will have a little more wealth in my pocket if I will get going on building an oilpiggy heater instead of building the bank account wealth of my electric provider!


CANGAS 198

[memoryman]

It would by nice to have accurate measurements done and posted. There is no explanation given (or even just a theory) of how/why OU appears.