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Friction heater running in my house

Started by oilpiggy, October 31, 2012, 02:25:24 PM

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ramset

 I must respectfully submit that we did do some measurements and caloric testing of
Oilpiggy's unit several years back, unless there have been dramatic advancements
Since then in his design ?

I would STRONGLY urge you reach out for him prior to investing much time into this.

Comparisons to a purely resistive control showed no real advantage at the time of testing.

Respectfully
Chetkremens@gmail. Com
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

lancaIV

http://www.monolithic.org/products-interior/heating-and-cooling-systems-for-monolithic-dome-homes

Experience shows that well insulated, conventional homes in the northern United States take approximately ten watts of heat per square foot. So, a 1200-square-foot, well insulated, conventional home takes about 12,000 watts of heat.

Reply #180 related :

oilpiggy:           450 sqft.             friction heater drive wattage ?
John Foster:   1400 sqft              friction heater drive wattage ?

lancaIV


http://www.monolithic.org/products-interior/heating-and-cooling-systems-for-monolithic-dome-homes
Experience shows that well insulated, conventional homes in the northern United States take approximately ten watts of heat per square foot. So, a 1200-square-foot, well insulated, conventional home takes about 12,000 watts of heat.


1200-square-foot,11700 BTU : 3400 Watt friction motor,fan
https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=2938

1400-square-foot, ? BTU, ? Watt
https://www.facebook.com/FOSMANDEVICE[/font][/size] The Fosman Device looks to make those high cost oil & propane burning furnace & heaters a thing of the past. The Fosman Device uses a combined 6 cylinders rotating within 6 larger cylinders seperated only by vegetable oil & powered by a 1/2hp to 1.5hp motor depending on the size of the space needing to be heated. Each individual cylinder running on 1/2hp motor can reach in excess of 300 degrees. The Fosman Device can reach temperature in as little as 20 minutes creating more than enough heat for the average 3 bedroom, 2 bath home for much less than anything currently available in the world today. The Fosman Device actually becomes more efficient & uses less & less wattage the hotter the device gets & due to it's patented pending design, the heater retains the heat much, much longer than any other heating system in the world. There is nothing out there currently that can make that claim.[/size]If cost savings doesn't already have you foaming at the mouth, let's look at the safety & efficiency of the Fosman Device. The overall design of the Fosman Device will have the diameter of the average water heater & half the height. There are no fuel lines, no emissions, no leaks, no smell pipes, no exhaust fans & no chimneys needed. The Fosman Device will be able to be placed in just about any position, in any corner, rafter, etc. as long as there is a 110/220 volt plug & the home central duct work can be attached. Imagine the space this little buddy will free up in your current or new home, office or warehouse.   So, let's recap, the Fosman Device will be cheap to operate, eliminates any & all fossil fuels, wood, etc., can be placed just about anywhere, eliminates all kinds of pipes, chimneys, etc. & more than likely, will reduce your fire insurance as an added bonus & applications to heat your water as well.

11000 BTU,600 Watt
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900213&CC=US&NR=4900898A&KC=A


http://www.infraroodpanelen.eu/test3-infrarotheizung_heizungplatte_infrarood_infrared_romer_roemer_haustek_redwell_imowell_thermowell.pdf
"So ist beispielsweise bekannt, dass eine 1800 W Heizung mit Glühdrähten und [/size]Keramikgrund nicht annähernd die Leistung einer 300 W IR-CNT-Heizung erbringt. "
google translated:
"For example, announced that a 1800 W heater with glow wires and  ceramic base is not nearly the power of a 300 W IR-CNT heater provides."


http://www.heaterlab.com/best-infrared-heater-reviews-guide/
Infrared Room HeatersInfrared room heaters work with more heating power and can heat up a whole room of up to 1000 square feet, some can even handle more. For operation they also need to be plugged in into a standard wall outlet. They usually operate at about 1500 watts, so you can save some money here as the central heaters usually use over 5000 watts.

lancaIV

These technical numbers
1200-square-foot,11700 BTU : 3400 Wattpeak  friction motors consume ( drum- and fan-drive)
https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=2938

are from 1981
so actually,2016,
we can improve the efficiency of the total friction heater system
with better electric motors,variable speed (= "Inverter") and permanent magnets equipped

                                Average savings today: Cuts electricity use by 33% to 50%
http://www.energyconscious.com/sntech-green-motor-indoor-1-2hp-psc-replacement-motor-gi10750g.html
(caution: SNTECH under chapter 11)


Keppe ?

lancaIV

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Charles-Edmund-Souders/Rochester-MI 
                                     alive for questioning ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2013011125A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20130110&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

The "Rolling Lumens Heater" consists of an 8″×8″×4″ electrical junction box with six lampholders mounted on the exterior of the box. A 100 watt light bulb is placed in each of the lampholders. A 120 volt ac line supplies voltage to the interior of the junction box where each of the lampholders is connected in parallel to the line. The junction box is installed in the cold air return of a forced air furnace or in an enclosure through which hot water pipes travel in a hot water heating system. When the lamps are illuminated, the air driven by an 8 inch fan through the cold air return, or enclosure, is heated to a temperature of 70 degrees Fahrenheit. The heated air is then pushed through the heating system to the registers and out into the rooms where the temperature remains constant at 70 degrees. The cost of operating this system is approximately $30.00 per month for an average size home. No petroleum or fossil fuels are burned in this process with no resultant environmental pollution and inherent health hazards.
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                                          forced air or hydronic system
                   600 lamp Watt + fan consume for an averaged size home

                   average size home : http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-house

                   average size tiny house ::)
                   drum pipe heater
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19850416&CC=US&NR=4511787A&KC=A
+ 2016 technical standart of power saving heat elements < 450 Wp electric consume
    for the 450 sft. area and 660 Wp heater example

f.e.   http://www.average.com.ua/     heat element example  1900Win/3000Wout
       http://canlaser.com/en/Hhm.aspx
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as cheaper alternative to #187
http://www.infraroodpanelen.eu/test3-infrarotheizung_heizungplatte_infrarood_infrared_romer_roemer_haustek_redwell_imowell_thermowell.pdf
"So ist beispielsweise bekannt, dass eine 1800 W Heizung mit Glühdrähten und [/size]Keramikgrund nicht annähernd die Leistung einer 300 W IR-CNT-Heizung erbringt. "
google translated:
"For example, announced that a 1800 W heater with glow wires and  ceramic base is not nearly the power of a 300 W IR-CNT heater provides."
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Far-Infra-Red heater with this heat effect are sold here in Europe for 359 Euros ea.
with 400 W nominal heat power. 



and clearly some,as I,are really interested in this power saving distribution system:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/komoto-fans-heat-2000sf-for-4-cents-per-hour#/
use a patent pending electric distribution system to power each fan blade one at a time.

Universal use ability ? Five rooms,five heaters and one (power saving) electric distribution system ?

                                                    Pulse heater 

If not KOMOTO :'( ,
okay ;) https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2016070292
Could this be a planar transformer ?
https://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/  and truly for efficient heating ,too  ::)