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Friction heater running in my house

Started by oilpiggy, October 31, 2012, 02:25:24 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#105
January 07, 2013, 05:49:40 PM
Quote from: oilpiggy on January 07, 2013, 11:58:24 AM
Hello everyone,

Well I am rebuilding the heater in my house one more time :o The dang thing keeps getting so hot that it keeps burning up the oil >:(
I have a few ideas to try.... I am going to slow down the RPMs and run fewer discs and maybe allow more oil pass through between the non moving discs ;)

lol you know what they say practice makes perfect... 8)
Hi Gabriel,

Motor oil is designed to run at about 212 deg. F.  Canola oil has a flashpoint of 620 deg. F.  If you were at 300 deg F. before, Canola oil may be fine, as long as you don't go past say..570 deg. F, for safety. 

Slowing the RPM will of course reduce said input power greatly, not a bad idea if you can still maintain the same temp.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

oilpiggy

#106
January 07, 2013, 07:55:33 PM
Thanks Bruce,
I will look into the Canola oil
I don't have a way to get a temp reading from in between the drive discs, so I am not sure how high the temp is getting. I can only get the temp off of the top of the oil in the core. The smoke temp of the oil I am using is 450F and I am clearly smoking it,... it turned it into a dark brown sludge. ??? :o
I really just don't want to use anything but 100% non toxic easily made oils. {at lest for now}
I will make my mods to the core and take some pics and a video then post them in the next 48 hours.

I am still working on the tooling for the testing models as well.
But I must keep my house warm first and foremost so the one for my house takes precedence. :D

 

hartiberlin

#107
January 07, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
Hi Gabriel,
well done.

What is the distance from disc to disc ?
So they are magnetized ? North to South ?

Does it also work without magnetosation ? Did you test this yet ?

Do you also put something into the oil additionally ?

What kind of oil (brand and product number) did you use until now ?

Why are you so sure that you don´t produce any cavitation effects there ?

When did you get this overunity heat when you changed what parameters ?
( You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so
you probably know, what makes it now much better ??)

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

oilpiggy

#108
January 10, 2013, 03:32:15 AM
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 07, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
Hi Gabriel,
well done.

What is the distance from disc to disc ?
So they are magnetized ? North to South ?

Does it also work without magnetosation ? Did you test this yet ?

Do you also put something into the oil additionally ?

What kind of oil (brand and product number) did you use until now ?

Why are you so sure that you don´t produce any cavitation effects there ?

When did you get this overunity heat when you changed what parameters ?
( You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so
you probably know, what makes it now much better ??)

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Hello Stefan,

And thank you.

{Q} 1) "What is the distance from disc to disc ?"

{A} 0.0625

{Q} 2) "So they are magnetized ? North to South ?"

{A} Yes they are but only very lightly, they are set up in N,S,N,S

{Q} 3) "Does it also work without magnetosation ? Did you test this yet ?"

{A} Yes it does work very well without magnetizing them, on my first testing I ran both setups but with the magnetized discs I got a few more degrees out of the heater.

{Q} 4) "Do you also put something into the oil additionally ?"

{A} I only use 100% organic soy bean oils.

{Q} 5) "What kind of oil (brand and product number) did you use until now ?"

{A} I sill am using the same oils but I looking into using refined white mineral oil. It states that it has a smoke temp of 750F but we will see.

{Q} 6) "Why are you so sure that you don´t produce any cavitation effects there ?"

{A} My design is in such a way to not allow for and micro vacuum or any void to be produced as it runs.

{Q} 7) "When did you get this overunity heat when you changed what parameters ?

{A} On my 2nd build is when I got this Friction heater to work as it is. I had to change everything from my 1rst build, it when into the scrap bin.

{Q} 8) " You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so you probably know, what makes it now much better ?

{A} I have learned a lot from this build from the start till now.... and I am still learning. I could make a book from everything I have learned at this point.

Thank you
Gabriel
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