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Donald Smith Device self looping no cap no batteries bright Lights !

Started by gadgetmall, November 09, 2012, 06:22:34 PM

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verpies

People!
If you copy my schematic diagram of Mr. Clean's device, at least have enough common sense to not save it in lossy JPEG (JPG) format !!!

e2matrix

Quote from: verpies on November 13, 2012, 04:21:05 PM
People!
If you copy my schematic diagram of Mr. Clean's device, at least have enough common sense to not save it in lossy JPEG (JPG) format !!!
What's wrong with jpeg (jpg) format when you have variable compression?    But since we are talking common sense I'll just mention it is very bad form to hot link a photo or diagram on one forum from another forum.  I think Stephen would be upset if he knew you hot linked all the diagrams at EF to here.  You do realize it uses Stephen's bandwidth to display them on another forum?  It's always best to download and post it directly (which you can do on EF) or upload it to an image hosting service and link to them. 

Other than those little knot's in the wood thanks for all your work on making the diagrams. 

verpies

Quote from: e2matrix on November 13, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
What's wrong with jpeg (jpg) format when you have variable compression?
JPEGs use lossy compression. "Lossy" means that they lose information. 
Visually this means that JPEGs have ringing artifacts, are blurry and not as crisp as losslessly compressed images, e.g.: PNG or GIF or BMP, etc...
In this case the JPEG is 2x larger than the PNG, too, thus it wastes bandwidth. The "variability" of the compression does not resolve this problem.

Quote from: e2matrix on November 13, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
But since we are talking common sense I'll just mention it is very bad form to hot link a photo or diagram on one forum from another forum. 
I think Stephen would be upset if he knew you hot linked all the diagrams at EF to here.  You do realize it uses Stephen's bandwidth to display them on another forum? 
It's always best to download and post it directly (which you can do on EF) or upload it to an image hosting service and link to them. 
It's Stephen's fault because it is impossible to attach a PNG image to a post on his forum. 
The software of the Energeticforum has no common sense as it blindly converts all PNG images to JPEGs.
Once he gets his act together and stops blurry'ing up my images with such dumb format conversions, I will upload my crisp images directly to his forum.


e2matrix

Quote from: verpies on November 14, 2012, 09:19:47 AM
JPEGs use lossy compression. "Lossy" means that they lose information. 
Visually this means that JPEGs have ringing artifacts, are blurry and not as crisp as losslessly compressed images, e.g.: PNG or GIF or BMP, etc...
In this case the JPEG is 2x larger than the PNG, too, thus it wastes bandwidth. The "variability" of the compression does not resolve this problem.
It's Stephen's fault because it is impossible to attach a PNG image to a post on his forum. 
The software of the Energeticforum has no common sense as it blindly converts all PNG images to JPEGs.
Once he gets his act together and stops blurry'ing up my images with such dumb format conversions, I will upload my crisp images directly to his forum.

GIF's, BMP's tend to be huge compared to .jpg files.  My high end Nikon camera and Canon digital both save in .jpg format unless you go with RAW which is huge and uncompressed.  I don't see any image degradation in .jpg that is noticeable and other than the recent PNG format it's been a standard for decades.  BUT we aren't talking photo contest quality here.  Again common sense dictates we just need to be able to read the diagram and the ones you posted I converted to .jpg when I made my own mod to your layout and it's very easy to read.   

   Also EF is Aaron's forum.  Overunity is Stephens forum.  So I'm not sure how it is Stephen's fault that you are using his bandwidth to post at EF.  Any way I'm not trying to give you a hard time here but I want to let you know that many forums will BAN you for doing that and we don't want that to happen.  It's always been a major NO-NO to hot link to other web sites for a picture, diagram or anything that will use bandwidth off another site.  All you need to do is upload your stuff to imageshack or some place like that if you can't post directly on a site.