Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

[aleks]

Hmm... so do you think I will I see any particles or not?

If you ionize air a bit before discharging you'll probably get some accelerated particles.

[Inventor81]

Confirmation from a particle physicist working at an electron beam accelerator facility.

Trust me when I say that this is one of three people I know who is smarter than I am. As in, I KNOW he's smarter than I am. I also know he's smarter than those other two people.

"We make beta particles every day."

300 amp, 12GeV electron beam.

Question: "A .5V 300A plasma collided with a tokamak wall when one of the containment magnets quenched. The tokamak was destroyed by primarily beta radiation."

Response: "No shit!"

Me: "Does this thing [VSG] produce beta"

Physicist: "You're sure he's making a megawatt pulse ["yes - 100-ish joules on a microsecond scale discharge"] - ok, then he's just hitting the tail of the probability distribution. How much beta was he measuring?"

Me: over 1Sv/hr - meter maxed out with a counter overrun, "clicker" was screaming.

Physicist:"And when does he get out of the hospital?"

Me: He doesn't even have a sunburn

P: "And his thyroid is still functioning after 1Sv of X-rays?"

Me: "Probbably not - since he's still conscious."

P: "Right. 1MW pulse... commercial/military meter, or consumer grade"

Me: "eBay"

P: "Yup, EMI. Lemme guess, he also erased a hard disk or two?"

Me: "Fried a camera and a calculator. Smelled like he'd been arc welding"

P: "EMI."

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In other words, you're creating beta. No problem.

You are not getting a positive "delta E".

It would take Sv after Sv (100's of roentgens) to create the kinds of energy levels that we're talking about. Even 60KW.

My assumption for 2% consumed  input current was incorrect.

Apparently the quoted probabilities for the reaction to occur are accurate - 1E-9% is not far off.

A tokamak is exactly what we are talking about here. Hot plasma in an axial magnetic field with electrons flying through it. This reaction, as with any other nuclear process, depends on reaction containment time (small) reaction cross section (really small) and energy density (incredibly fucking small).

Each reacton, undoubtedly, is "overunity". A 13MeV electron goes in, sure.

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Me:"So it's possible to put in a few hundred eV and get out 13MeV"

P:"Sounds a little high, but you're in the ballpark."

Me:"So EUV and soft Xray energies would do it"

P:"Oh sure, a few hundred or 1 or 2KeV would get the job done"

Me:"So what we're talkign about really isn't too little energy, just no way of making sure the current hits a nucleus instead of empty space"

P:"Right, the likelihood of getting a positive delta E [change in total energy] is going to be nil. If you want to have an expensive electric bill, you can make beta particles very easily though."

Me: "Juice a computer monitor"

P:"Or buy a particle accelerator."

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So, in short, unless you've managed to increase the reaction cross section/probability by a factor of 1E6, and capture close to 100% of the emitted beta particles as energy, and magically absorb all your X-rays (and not scatter them as beta, alpha, and neutrons) then we're done.

He also indicated that a plastic jar with dry ice in it would be our best bet. Build a cloud chamber.

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~adf4/cloud.html

So, in short - try a cloud chamber

Or photographic film.

Or both.

Either one will teach you alot, but is highly unlikely to make you some free energy.

[Inventor81]

Self running...


didn't happen.

It did not charge the battery.

It killed the dendrites/desulfided the plates/reconditioned the battery with back-fed high voltage pulses.

Adittionally, with a magnetically saturated iron core toroid (or laminated steel, whatever) you can be sure that there was some pent up magnetic field in that toroid.

The PhD is in agreement that the high power pulse, plus feedback, reconditioned the battery in record time.

The EMI fried the circuits

and the latent flux in the toroid, which was saturated due to the high power pulses coming in and the permanent magnets on the carbon, simply collapsed and rang with the capacitors. As the magnet desaturated, the pulses could then behave as normal as per a current transformer - i.e. 1V in to one winding, 100V out on 100 windings. This would have continued building in intensity until unity gain was reached (i.e., the above statement actually occured, without any magnetic bias left in the toroid core), then it would have decayed to zero as a damped oscillation.

There is no excess POWER in the system. The system ran, powered, for longer than it ran unpowered. Unless new data comes in from that same unit showing that it is running on its own for longer than it ran while powered, then there is a negative delta E.



Further, the unit would definitely dissipate 60KW worth of beta into the air or the device itself, eventually turning into heat.

a 60KW heat source would be about 30 hair dryers on full blast.

or a gas grill. or ten.

The air would be arcing like a tesla coil was going off... due to the induced potential from the charged particles.

None of this happened. It's not beta, and its likely not anything but a saturated core.

[Yucca]

Consider my contributions to this thread terminated.

Any further research will be conducted on my own.

I find the most "promising" posts to be made by the least "promising" individuals.

My sincere thanks to Dr. Stiffler for having elucidated this fact.

LOL

[Feynman]

That is a good point.  It must run longer (aka infinite) after the battery is disconnected.  That may somehow explain battery de-sulfation and 'charging'?  But what about all of those non-close-loop COP>1 measurements on VI_input vs. VI_output?  That also must somehow be explained.

The self-running test is to have Fester power it for 30 secs from the battery , disconnect, and watch it run for at least 45 secs, prefereably 20 mins,  and make observations of the scope trace.  If he is worried about runaway, just fuse it at the output -> input junction and let it run.