UFO politics Keeps his word 12-12 12 Let the games begin.......

[scratchrobot]

@Red_Sunset, thank you for the good explanation about what's going on, i don't think you are welcome in the official thread 

[e2matrix]

I see that a whole lot of people are ordering the motor kits with unwound armatures, for hundreds of dollars a pop, and some people are even concerned that the kit manufacturers won't be able to handle the flood of orders.

Will these people be disappointed when they discover that their systems cannot be self-looped and cannot generate any excess energy over what it takes to run the motor .... if that is the case?

Would it not be better to dampen the wild enthusiasm and get some actual reliable power numbers first, like by using correct instruments correctly ? 

Here's my prediction: UFOPolitics will still be running his house from the grid this Christmas.... and next Christmas too.

Dampen enthusiasm too much and I have no doubt UFO would disappear from posting.  I'm personally not running out to buy the 'kits' as I will wait until I see it self looped or some other undeniable proof.  I have not actually followed that thread enough lately to be completely sure of what UFO has but I am confident he is a very educated person in the motor field (IIRC he has a number of patents)  and there is no reason I have to believe he is intentionally misleading people.   So I will stay enthusiastic and support his progress but will wait a little longer before I invest hundreds of dollars.   I know from early on in that thread he was ready to leave and not post anymore because of detractors and naysayers.   So I don't think it can hurt any to stay positive and those who choose to spend money now must realize there is always some risk in any investment of money or time spent. 
   My prediction: UFO will be off grid by next Christmas   

[ALVARO_CS]

What did UFOpolitics do?
As shown in his video, "asymmetry to enlightenment",  there are 2 coils, one input (motor coil) and one output (generator coil),  this is the reason for the 2 commutators. 

hello all
As I´ve been reading & posting in there, I¨ll like to clarify that there is not such two coils in Ufopolitics machine. Every coil in the rotor is separately connected to each commutator. one side of coil at input, and the outside at output. All coils are therefore motors and generators.
That is the reason for two commutators.
I kindly suggest you to revise better all the info showed there as it will avoid misinformation.
Thank
Alvaro

[Red_Sunset]

hello all
As I´ve been reading & posting in there, I¨ll like to clarify that there is not such two coils in Ufopolitics machine. Every coil in the rotor is separately connected to each commutator. one side of coil at input, and the outside at output. All coils are therefore motors and generators.
That is the reason for two commutators.
I kindly suggest you to revise better all the info showed there as it will avoid misinformation.
Thank   Alvaro

Hello Alvaro,

I guess that what you are referring to is that the coils are swapped every half turn between the top and bottom brushes and therefore no unique generator or motor coil exist.  You are correct because the two coils are wound in opposing directions. and since the commutator does not take care of the polarity reversal because only one polarity is maintained at one commutator. The opposite winded coil need to take care of that reversal.
I would gather this was done to give the impression that this would change the opposing magnetic field polarity between motor and generator.  I am sorry to say that it doesn't do that. The magnetic field will always oppose the field that caused the induction no matter in which direction you wind the coil.  If there is an other reason, pls share it.
This detail does not change the explanation of the functionality that has been described in the previous post.

It would have been better to have both ends of one coil on the same commutator, this would have simplified and standardized the setup. As far as I can see, the position of the brushes have nothing to do with the operating symmetry of the system (or linear connection). If there is, pls explain it to me how this is or can impact the working of this motor/generator, and what the impact is when doing it differently. 
I would be interested and all ears !

I hope this helps

[ALVARO_CS]

@Red_Sunset
Please have a look at the different ways of winding

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?uo7zlkakgcd5lye

regards
Alvaro