UFO politics Keeps his word 12-12 12 Let the games begin.......

[MileHigh]

Ian:

@Mile high
You just like you are doing here you was causing so mutch trouble not interested in what goes on anly trying to cause discord and that is why in UFOs Threads you were expelled not permitted to post there any more

I did not appreciate you sending me a private Email asking me to post a long document on UFO's thread I did not even read it I marked it as Spam

I just forgot to include this in my previous post

I was never on UFO's thread and I sent you the proposed motor test that I just posted here.  Nor am I trying to cause discord.  I sent you the email as a courtesy because my posts can take one or two days to appear.

The fact that you didn't even read the proposed motor test makes my eyes roll.  PW reported that nobody in the EF thread did a proper modified motor test so I sent you a proposed test that most of the experimenters should be able to perform themselves.  It makes no sense to not do some real testing on the other thread.

MileHigh

[tinman]

You seem to think that a 20 watt lightbulb will always draw 20 watts, no matter what. It automatically adjusts.... something.... so that whenever you supply any power to it, it pulls 20 watts. Right?

Come on, Ian, think for a moment. You supply a load with VOLTAGE. The RESISTANCE of the load determines how much CURRENT will flow at that supplied VOLTAGE. Once the current is flowing you measure the supplied VOLTAGE and CURRENT..... and then you have numbers that tell you the POWER in WATTS that you are dissipating. The WATTS number isn't the constant value, it isn't what you are supplying.... it is determined by the load's resistance and the current being pushed through it by the supplied VOLTAGE. If your source isn't powerful enough, then the voltage sags or even disappears, because it can't supply the current demanded by the load's low resistance.

So if you have a resistive load that draws 3 amps at a supplied voltage of 240 Volts, that is 720 Watts of power, you got that much right.

Now, in contrast to your straw men above.... what happens if YOU LOWER THE VOLTAGE to that same load? Does the current rise somehow to maintain 720 Watts?

Well i did try to explain this to them TK,but thats when the real trouble started lol.
Lester444 first made the comment that the amp draw would fall when the voltage was raised.
And when i told him this wasnt the case,he gave me a nother not so nice reply.
But after that ,he did what well all should do-he went and tried it for him self.
He then made a post saying that the amp's do indeed go up with the volt's,but UFO and other's still agreed that the amp's wopuld drop.
I believe they asume that because the resistance in an incandecant bulb will rise with heat,the bulb will draw less amp's?.I did mention that they should factor in the heat being produced aswell,and that more heat requires more watts of power.
But we all know how that went.

I must say-UFO played a great game of chess

[minnie]

Hi,
   I used some multi strand Beadalon wire as heating elements for motorcycling gloves, about 4ft., I was a bit worried
about using a constant voltage, 12v., but as the temperature rises the current seems to limit itself. Still got most of my
fingers!
              John.

[verpies]

Ohms Law states that Power = Volts x Amps
Examples
720P =240v x 3A   and  720P = 120v x 6A  and 720P = 60v  x 12A   

That is always true only for DC.

No law says that: average Power = average Volts * average Amps.
The above equation is false for AC and PDC.

[Red_Sunset]

That is always true only for DC.
No law says that: average Power = average Volts * average Amps.
The above equation is false for AC and PDC.

I would suggest to keep this simple basic problem as simple as possible.
This discussion problem can be verified quicker than I can write this post.
Anybody who thinks that the power stays constant because it is written on the bulb, pls just put your meter in the circuit and check for yourselves.
A simple test is to plug a 110v bulb into 220v and explain what you see happening
A simple test is to plug a 220v bulb into 110v and explain what you see happening.

There is no better belief that "self discovered" belief !
Otherwise it remains an"opinion", and we can have many of those !