Magnetic energy pump OU motor

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It seems you're quite familiar with living in some other galaxies?... 

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We're lucky, we have you... 

If it wasn't for skeptics "cockblocking" free thinkers we wouldn't be in this filthy world filled with greed and corruption.

Good for you, it seems that  "skeptics" are the only problem you have to deal with...

Btw, how old are you?
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[wizkycho]

Hi all !

about exponentialy rising input:

the Main reason I think is that more and more energy is requiered to force coil's magnetic field to go deeper and deeper into coils core.
this is known in transformer operation.

that is why Hildenbrand type of magnetic transistor has advantage . only surface of core needs to be magnetized.

what a finess !

- by making smaller airgap to rotor (much less energy input - for now easier swithch of PM field)
- using more permeable rotor (again much less energy input - for easier swithch of PM field),
- and Hildenbrand type of MT (less energy input for more rerouted PM flux)

energy amplification is very likely expected...and lots of free energy.

I think that Mr. Hildenbrand didn't quite reveal and he understated how much surplus Watts these motors can develop

Of course they wouldn't grant him a patent then

Wiz

[Ergo]

I've been on the Hilden Brand subject before and I hold on to my opinion that his motors are not overunity.
I cleary remember a strange statement from Hilden Brand a while ago.
It was about his three phase motor (the one Honk was building a controller for).
He said it reved up to 4000rpm and that's OK, but he also said it took some 3-4 minutes to reach full speed.
His input was 90watts at 150V. And he told us he was getting several Hp output.

Now here's the tricky part. If his motor was truly overunity and could deliver many Hp from 90watts input then it
shouldn't take several minutes to reach 4000 rpm. It should happen in matter of seconds, not minutes.
This is one of all his statements that clearly show him not really knowing how to perform accurate measurements.

Of course, this statement of his has been removed by himself as most other statements. It's sad that this forum used to
allow the members to edit or remove their posts a long time afterwards. Luckily this feature is gone nowadays.

[wizkycho]

I've been on the Hilden Brand subject before and I hold on to my opinion that his motors are not overunity.
I cleary remember a strange statement from Hilden Brand a while ago.
It was about his three phase motor (the one Honk was building a controller for).
He said it reved up to 4000rpm and that's OK, but he also said it took some 3-4 minutes to reach full speed.
His input was 90watts at 150V. And he told us he was getting several Hp output.

Now here's the tricky part. If his motor was truly overunity and could deliver many Hp from 90watts input then it
shouldn't take several minutes to reach 4000 rpm. It should happen in matter of seconds, not minutes.
This is one of all his statements that clearly show him not really knowing how to perform accurate measurements.

Of course, this statement of his has been removed by himself as most other statements. It's sad that this forum used to
allow the members to edit or remove their posts a long time afterwards. Luckily this feature is gone nowadays.

Ergo

I remmember your every previous post, they were pretty much same but not showing any experiment with negative results although as You claim you have made many
but being so sure it is false !?

Now it is very logical (and not silly at all) to see that allready very efficient (but still under100%) properly build todays electric motor with addition of magnets (many ways to do that - and on many types allso) has very large probability to go over 100%.

I really did the above experiment that shows that power input requirement is not rising with added magnets - only output is affected - it has now 1.8 times more power (and must be repeated this is very very badly made stator-rotor - cheaply as it gets).

The only thing that here is missing is dynamic in other words frequency characteristic (better switch on switch off times) of input coil with and wo magnets.

This meassurement does not include rise and fall edges of current in coil or rise and drop edges of magnetic strenght on end of stator.
But since magnetic filed from PM is allowed to easily (it is not forced) change its path I do not expect significant
differences in rise and fall time both current or magnetic strenght. comparing with or without magnets situation

Timing when switching coil needs to be somewhat more precise then in just-to-rotate type setup. there should be enough rotor surface overlaped with stator , then efficency is gretest................................
Also if not made as precise - low RPMs can help then influence of rise and fall times is lowered.

Now please do some experiment - cause this is much past just the theory concept - so if you mean to bring it down you can do it only with experiment.

thx

Wiz

[Ergo]

Now it is very logical (and not silly at all) to see that allready very efficient (but still under100%) properly build todays electric motor with addition of magnets (many ways to do that - and on many types allso) has very large probability to go over 100%.

If you are talking about making regular electric motors more efficient than 100% by adding extra magnets you are so totaly wrong.
It's simply not possible due to how "regular" electric motor operate. The only benefit by stronger magnets is higher efficiency. But OU is impossible.
Please read carefully below how a regular motor work. This is not something I have made up. If you don't understand this you need to
catch up on your electrical understanding.
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In a regular motor all torque is created by the interaction between the electromagnets and the permanent magnets. Push and pull.
When the motor is energized and increases in speed the coils will generate a Back Voltage from the passing magnets.
The motor will continue to increase in speed until the Back Voltage has reached the same level as the applied voltage.
This is the "Rated RPM level" of the choosen motor.

When you load the shaft of a regular electric motor, it lowers the RPM and the Back Voltage is lowered as well.
The difference between the "Applied Voltage" and the generated "Back Voltage" divided by the "Internal Resistance" of the motor
is equal to the current flowing into the motor to maintain the loaded RPM level.
It's simply Ohms law. This is why a regular motor consumes more and more current when being loaded. It can never become overunity.

Inserting an even higher magnetic field in the motor from extra magnets will increase the Back Voltage, and the number of copper
turns in the coils can be reduced to match the desired RPM goal. This leads to much lower internal resistance, thus increasing the
efficiency, up to more than 90%, sometimes 98%, but you can never exceed 100% due to all torque being created by electrical force.
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If you don't believe me I can tell you that no matter how you add magnets to your "regular" motor you will still have to pay for the difference
in Applied voltage and Generated back voltage divided by the Internal resistance. And there is no workaround or shortcuts in this matter.