Magnetic energy pump OU motor

[wizkycho]

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In a regular motor all torque is created by the interaction between the electromagnets and the permanent magnets. Push and pull.
When the motor is energized and increases in speed the coils will generate a Back Voltage from the passing magnets.
The motor will continue to increase in speed until the Back Voltage has reached the same level as the applied voltage.
This is the "Rated RPM level" of the choosen motor.

There are several TYPES of REGULAR motors.
We are talking about TYPE pure induction (generated exclusively by coil no Pmags here) AC (or pulsed DC) motors.
Further on their SUBTYPE is coilless ROTOR. (this is not siemens-alternator self exciting motor-generator TYPE with coil on rotor)
So Cannot be used as generator.And No Lentz. So there is no back Voltage
They are widely used today and their efficiency allready is very high at certain loads and rpms - 70 to 90%. Now add PMagnets....  ?
again NO LENTZ - and btw:

I tried genesis type generator properties and since half the flux of PM is going to rotor it generated 1Vpp max. (when there is no rotor - there is Peak - full flux on coil now)
BUT this is very low generation AND (unlike lentz) is 180 angle - means shortly it does not affect INPUT power needed - because it is not acting when power is ON. when 100 ohm load is connected that voltage is zero - microamps Why? because flux of PM reroutes easily to rotor. so there is NO real generator properties that can affect input a bit.
HildenBrand type does NOT even have half the flux on the rotor (off state) so no genaration of voltage at all. so movement of the rotor does not even generate that weak and 180 delayed voltage ! PERIOD.

Your observation can contribute to experimentaly prooven thinking
that motors with PM really preserve very very long their strenght.
In other words PM do not wear out !

When you load the shaft of a regular electric motor, it lowers the RPM and the Back Voltage is lowered as well.
The difference between the "Applied Voltage" and the generated "Back Voltage" divided by the "Internal Resistance" of the motor
is equal to the current flowing into the motor to maintain the loaded RPM level.
It's simply Ohms law. This is why a regular motor consumes more and more current when being loaded. It can never become overunity.

Inserting an even higher magnetic field in the motor from extra magnets will increase the Back Voltage, and the number of copper
turns in the coils can be reduced to match the desired RPM goal. This leads to much lower internal resistance, thus increasing the
efficiency, up to more than 90%, sometimes 98%, but you can never exceed 100% due to all torque being created by electrical force.[/b]
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If you don't believe me I can tell you that no matter how you add magnets to your "regular" motor you will still have to pay for the difference
in Applied voltage and Generated back voltage divided by the Internal resistance. And there is no workaround or shortcuts in this matter.

as said wrong type of motor....no back voltage.....these motors doesn't have generator capability - "only" generation of OVER 100% efficient torque.
(claim with high probability - based on experiments)
...

about change rise and fall time (and somewhat generator properties) - in dynamic actuall operation - I questioned in letter before
this 2 messurements with 2 different instruments I just done
can contribute to thinking that rise and fall time change comparison (no mags - mags) due to change in inductivity 
will not interfere significantly so higher RPMs are possible and still in OU mode.
(looks like difference is due to tolerances of meters)

Lx meter 1

32.0mH   woM
31.1mH     wM

Lx meter 2

26.6mH   woM
27.2mH   wM


@Ergo and all

very important:
No Lentz - here and coil is switched on when rotor is somewhat overlaping stator (low magnetic resistance) so coil easily reroutes flux of PM - nothing needs to be forced and output resistance from load does not change that (if pulsed in right positions of rotor). In other words coil needs
to change only magnetic resistance it doesn't have to fight the Lentz

Wiz

[Ergo]

Hahahaha...No Lenz's law and no back Voltage just because there is no PM magnets.
Of course both of these features are present in an induction motor.
You can't circumvent these laws. No matter whether the motor is PM or Induction based.

Take the induction motor for example. If you didn't have Back Voltage (as you claim) the
motor would run at almost No Voltage at the Rated RPM level.
If your induction motor armature resistance is 0.5R then you should be able to run this
motor at its rated level at only 1.5 volt if the No-Load current is 3 amps. 3A x 0.5R = 1.5V
But you can't. You know about this and you better acknowledge it. Open your eyes....
I don't know the rated voltage of the induction motor you are using.
But most induction motors run at high voltgage levels, like 200-400V. And they run at high
voltage despite of the low armature resistance at 0.5R due to the back voltage generated.

The coilless rotor is still being magnetized by the applied current and this induces back voltage
in the surrounding stator coils when it spins. So there is no gain here either. Take a class.

Every other idea you share is based on hope or your own conclusions.
It never ceases to amaze me on how badly educated you are. If you truly
want to find the holy grail you must know how things work in real life to
avoid making the same mistakes as everybody else before you.
When you don't know about physics you'll end up spending a lot of time
on some impossible case or development that is doomed to be a failure.

Most other people here don't know about these things either but they
usually don't make any strange claims in every post. It's the claims from
you before having checked or verified your statements that bother me.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against overunity, just ignorance.

[wizkycho]

1. very shortly.
I tried it with experiment - NO Lentz - No generator effect

2. again shortly
Induction motor (no siemens type or without coils on rotor) can not be used as generator. This is Known Fact.
No Back Voltage allso.
It is Just Motor 

(Only eddy currents here can induce back voltage - but eddy currents in dynamic operation are surpased 99% with laminates.
That is why transformer can reach 90-98% efficiency.)

Rotor on picture is not laminated - is this what you mean ? - cause for static messurement not laminated is enough (it was cheapest thing to do).

When building real motor Laminates must be used but although material is very available and cheap, it's making-cuting in shape is expensive for prototyping.

and please can you calm down.

Wiz

[Ergo]

You can continue to believe in your own imaginary ideas but it doesn't change the
facts and principles of all regular motors, Induction, PM or Pulse won't matter.
Don't you think that all of those hundreds of thousands scientists that's been working on all kinds
of electric motors throughout the years would have noticed such possibilities if they were true?

When you get strange test results, then you have to tripple check your test procedures.
Don't avoid to bring in someone classified to make judgement. Most important, don't thrust yourself.
It's most likely an measurement error or bad understanding of the test results.
Your test methods must lack some important input or maybe you avoid seeing the whole picture.

Last time we had an argument it was about the B/H curve and Hilden-Brand valve.
I was right in that discussion and I'm right this time to. But you will never admit that.
Please continue your research and learn what you missed to see while playing around.

[wizkycho]

You can continue to believe in your own imaginary ideas but it doesn't change the
facts and principles of all regular motors, Induction, PM or Pulse won't matter.
Don't you think that all of those hundreds of thousands scientists that's been working on all kinds
of electric motors throughout the years would have noticed such possibilities if they were true?

When you get strange test results, then you have to tripple check your test procedures.
Don't avoid to bring in someone classified to make judgement. Most important, don't thrust yourself.
It's most likely an measurement error or bad understanding of the test results.
Your test methods must lack some important input or maybe you avoid seeing the whole picture.

Last time we had an argument it was about the B/H curve and Hilden-Brand valve.
I was right in that discussion and I'm right this time to. But you will never admit that.
Please continue your research and learn what you missed to see while playing around.

My believe first came from well documented positive experiments of other people. JLN,Flynn,Hildebrand,Genesis...
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Electromagnetic
and of course on Overunity.com http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2222.0 (newest experiments)
by many researchers Nali2001, broli, i_ron and many others. All of those experiments
were positive but non the less I take them questionable - till I made some experiments of my own.
And all of them positive and leading undoutably with their results that at least we are on the right track.
So at least it is not fair to bump in without showing actuall negative experiment. Without showing negative results one just can not be right. Not after
all of those positive experiments. Those positive results ca not be called strange - they are rule now.
What I have shown in last experiment is that Addition Of PermanentMagnet (in static conditions - but allso low frequency dynamic conditions)
will not influenece power input but will greatly increase output.
this is small step ahead of other static messurements (not only input voltage is messured - but actuall power)

You can point your finger and say how do you think experiment is done wrong.

now (after experiment is done, and assuming what "obstacles" i can encounter in making it dynamic) I can make conclusion of high expectancy that further development
will render positive results. I know all the theory in this field you know.(BH curves, induction ..etc.) This MagneticTransistors concept works by influencing magnetic path resistances. this is not just biasing so to develop higher fluctations - efficiency. results showing that it refuses to be under 100% - it is much more then biasing.

Many dynamic (actuall motors) experiments are allso positive although I'm still sceptic (cause of this and that)...but for now I haven't bumped to any obstacle (not even in theory)
not even with experimenting, that can (if obstacles properly used in account) render actuall motor not working (in some range of RPMs and Loads) in FE mode.

So further proper experiments must be done - cause there is no obvious theory that can be expresed mathematicaly or with words that can render this motor under 100%.

Wiz