Magnetic energy pump OU motor

[wizkycho]

Hi all !

thinking of simplest and least expensive ways of quick building and getting results I came up with this:

as I announced before
Mechanicall Magnetic transistor or M-MEP

(magnets are drawn as such (mostly 2 magnets - in "series") cause I have exact those)

thickness of laminated core is important and it needs to be balanced so magnet in stator with lenz will repel magnet on rotor
if thickness of main core is not balanced (too thick) additional drive coil is needed for driving rotor and connected in series with output coil - again no E inputs.

machine needs to be rotated by hand first to start and generate voltage high enough to triger some zener-thyrstor combination.(or using comparators for various RPM-s and voltages)

no input just two outputs - although one should be used  (electricall) if not used machine stops.

it is very simmilar to this but came independently (from other think point)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7241.0;topicseen
(or not - he is not using additional magnet on drive coil.....)

wiz

Perihelion Labs

[wizkycho]

Hi all !

I just brain stormed how to make Hildebrand type Stator, and Rotor and all laminated
and all from exsistant parts used for E I trafo cores. (without using CNC machines)

now motor can be build properly and cheaply.

if interested i can describe further.

(...hope they would not forbid production of silicon iron sheets now.. ....then We'll be forced to invite forces of vaccuum....)

Wiz

Perihelion Labs

[gyulasun]

Hi Wiz,

Very interesting setup you have drawn above, thanks for sharing. 

I think the critical phase of the operation comes when  -after the voltage maximum- you draw current from the coil and you expect the field thus created will be enough to help the rotor magnet escape from between the main cores. 

The field needed for helping escape the rotor should reach a certain minimum strenght so that the rotor could surely move further on,  this needs a certain amount of load on the output to be always present, is not it so?   Of course this would not be a problem in itself...

There is one more thing I would like to mention:  the flux change you can use for inducing output is in fact not higher than the rotor magnet can cause by its coming and leaving movement.  This is because the stator magnet makes a static field in the core, and to this static field the change comes from the rotor magnets' flux, ok?

I will try to think about this setup further on, if any improvement occures to me I will post it.

If you feel like describing the new motor I would be curious.

rgds,  Gyula

[wizkycho]

Hi !
   
    I agree that lentz alone even current extracted maximum is insufficient for repel, but it is not stretched at all to expect
that generated lentz's counter flux will reroute part of static field of PM to rotor and make repel action.
(by prooven effect of magnetic resistance increase in coils core)

(coil's core can have an airgap inside to balance magnetic resistances.)

...but this setup needs to be made differently (rotor) to be mechanically strong enough since magnets are very strong
and distances to stator are supposedly small..(bearings should not move left-right a bit - which is rarelyt case).

I think I'll try it while solving parts for real Magnetic Transistor Hildebrand type motor.

Wiz

[Ergo]

What is this "magnetic resistance" you are talking about?
Do you refer to inductance or what?
Magnetic resistance is not a recognised technical term.
You should avoid using your own imaginary terms if you want
people to follow your explantions and ideas.