New guy with SMOT questions

[hoptoad]

And what you'll wind up with is a bunch of SNOT.
(Simple non-overunity toys.)

Sniff .... Snuffle ....    ..... excuse my running nose ..... 

[happyfunball]

And what you'll wind up with is a bunch of SNOT.
(Simple non-overunity toys.)

lol. 'SNOTworks too

[Poit]

I disagree with most people here. a perpetual motion smot is possible, just very impractical. It is proven that you can have a length of track that can provide energy to a coil as it passes, and that it can be going up (even 90degrees) whilst doing that. So I propose a smot track a mile long thats on an incline of 2degrees. along the track are pick up coils. when the ball finally reaches the end of the mile long track the pick up coils will have stored up enough energy to push the smot ball magnet out of the gate and gravity can roll it back to the starting position - to repeat - hence perpetual motion.

My definition of perpetual motion isn't as literal as some would argue, by the true definition of the word "perpetual" meaning forever, nothing in the universe is "for ever", so there for it is clearly not intended as forever, just a damn long time.

[sknoxmn]

A damn long time is a very fitting definition in my book as well. Previously I was saying there needs to be a consensus about at least a "Working term" for what constitutes perpetual.  Is it a week, a life time, or 100 years....

Hell one guy, with a link from wiki was saying that no one has ever closed the loop or made a SMOT to complete not even 1 complete cycle.  This is the part that got me going. I don't yet understand why it has not been done at least to that level. Let alone have the ability to reload itself and run the course again.

I think yes, eventually the N45 4inch x 1/2 x 1/2 that I have for this project will eventually lose their power. I dont think that will happen in my lifetime, but yes, it will happen at some time.

And initially, I was asking about the examples that haven't worked. So that people arent recreating things none to not work. Like the circular track on level field that no one can get the ball to reload once it does come back around.

The original ramp with the super strong magnet that pulls the ball up the ramp to fall through the hole doesn't work....But these are really the only few versions that I personally have found any information on. I have seen the spinning disks, I have seen the levitation of CD's I have seen guys with fishing line pulling the things around....

So again, my goal is not to extract some kind of surplus energy. I don't yet believe that can be done. But I think with the engery that is already "built in" to the magnets, a completed cycle can be made to work for at least 1 complete cycle if not more.

I'll get back to my design build when I get home.  I'll keep posting.

-S

[happyfunball]

I suppose Finsrud's perpetual Motion Mobile is a working SMOT. That thing always slips my mind. Anyone ever figure out what the story is with that doohickey?