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Why overunity MUST be difficult or even impossible to replicate.

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profitis

#70
September 02, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
@mark E no but you want me to organise you some?  An nickel hydroxide/MnO2/air couple is expected to have exactly Zero power outage by standard galvanic protocol. Therefore if we do see anything there we know we have something definitely worth looking into.

lancaIV

#71
September 02, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
                                             profitis,this here is not a battle !


@markE :
                                      an japanese inventor idea:

The present invention is an LED which is characterized by comprising a power generation unit in order to solve the problems described above, including a light emitting section for emitting light using an LED, a power generation panel to the generator receives the light of the light emitting portion configuration of a power generating apparatus utilizing, and characterized by comprising a light emitting unit for emitting light by providing many LED on a substrate, and a power generation unit generating power by receiving the light of the light emitter provided on the power panel on a substrate configuration of a power generating apparatus using an LED for a light emitting section for emitting light provided many LED on the front surface and the rear surface of the substrate is sandwiched from above and below the light emitting portion provided on a power panel on a substrate, receives light emitting portion a light emitting portion of the plurality of emitting light provided many LED on the front surface and the rear surface of the substrate and the configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized in that and a power generation unit of the two sheets for generating power, and the surface of the substrate consists of a power generation unit generating power by receiving the light of the light emitter provided on the power panel on the back, provided with a power supply unit as a power source to the light emitter, and a storage unit for storing the power generated by the generator unit configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized by providing the configuration of the power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized in that it is using the electric double layer capacitor to the storage unit and the power supply unit, a solar panel to the power unit configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized by using,Configuration of a power generating apparatus using an LED which is characterized in that it used a solar cell power generation unit, a power generation unit including a light emitting unit for emitting light using an LED, a power generation panel to the generator receives the light of the light emitting portion to obtain a configuration of a power generating apparatus using vinegar and LED characterized in that it is housed in the frame of the box-shaped with a door that can be opened and closed a power generating apparatus using an LED made of.

   Question : a. solar cell/panel efficiency -light emission bandwith related ?
                       b. electricity to light L.ight E.mitting D.iode efficiency
                       c. double layer capacitor losts ?

                         This above  light -not black(Miau-Miau)-box concept -
                         under this light source condition :


                         http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186773-the-polariton-laser-with-250x-lower-power-consumption-could-this-be-the-answer-to-on-chip-optical-interconnects


                        conventional L.A.S.E.R. efficiency X 250= ?


and a kind of Raman Laser http://phys.org/news172497349.html#nRlv
light amplifier /accelerator :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A

MarkE

#72
September 02, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
Quote from: profitis on September 02, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
@mark E no but you want me to organise you some?  An nickel hydroxide/MnO2/air couple is expected to have exactly Zero power outage by standard galvanic protocol. Therefore if we do see anything there we know we have something definitely worth looking into.
Your chaotic and confused lines of reasoning suggest game playing or impairment of some kind.  Now you have veered completely away from the discussion topic.

MarkE

#73
September 02, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: lancaIV on September 02, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
                                             profitis,this here is not a battle !


@markE :
                                      an japanese inventor idea:

The present invention is an LED which is characterized by comprising a power generation unit in order to solve the problems described above, including a light emitting section for emitting light using an LED, a power generation panel to the generator receives the light of the light emitting portion configuration of a power generating apparatus utilizing, and characterized by comprising a light emitting unit for emitting light by providing many LED on a substrate, and a power generation unit generating power by receiving the light of the light emitter provided on the power panel on a substrate configuration of a power generating apparatus using an LED for a light emitting section for emitting light provided many LED on the front surface and the rear surface of the substrate is sandwiched from above and below the light emitting portion provided on a power panel on a substrate, receives light emitting portion a light emitting portion of the plurality of emitting light provided many LED on the front surface and the rear surface of the substrate and the configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized in that and a power generation unit of the two sheets for generating power, and the surface of the substrate consists of a power generation unit generating power by receiving the light of the light emitter provided on the power panel on the back, provided with a power supply unit as a power source to the light emitter, and a storage unit for storing the power generated by the generator unit configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized by providing the configuration of the power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized in that it is using the electric double layer capacitor to the storage unit and the power supply unit, a solar panel to the power unit configuration of a power generating apparatus using the LED which is characterized by using,Configuration of a power generating apparatus using an LED which is characterized in that it used a solar cell power generation unit, a power generation unit including a light emitting unit for emitting light using an LED, a power generation panel to the generator receives the light of the light emitting portion to obtain a configuration of a power generating apparatus using vinegar and LED characterized in that it is housed in the frame of the box-shaped with a door that can be opened and closed a power generating apparatus using an LED made of.
That reads like machine translated text.
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   Question : a. solar cell/panel efficiency -light emission bandwith related ?
                       b. electricity to light L.ight E.mitting D.iode efficiency
                       c. double layer capacitor losts ?
The entire description is one of a device that converts and stores energy.  Each of the listed processes are lossy.
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                         This above  light -not black(Miau-Miau)-box concept -
                         under this light source condition :


                         http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186773-the-polariton-laser-with-250x-lower-power-consumption-could-this-be-the-answer-to-on-chip-optical-interconnects


                        conventional L.A.S.E.R. efficiency X 250= ?
Semiconductor LASER are typically less than 0.1% efficient.  So in the best case this would be about 40% efficient.  It is still a huge breakthrough worth watching for its impact on computing and communications.
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and a kind of Raman Laser http://phys.org/news172497349.html#nRlv
light amplifier /accelerator :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A

tinman

#74
September 02, 2014, 10:12:36 PM
Quote from: MarkE on September 02, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
Your chaotic and confused lines of reasoning suggest game playing or impairment of some kind.  Now you have veered completely away from the discussion topic.
They do that you know.
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