Why overunity MUST be difficult or even impossible to replicate.

[gauschor]

@OP: You are right. Case closed. Let's shut down the forum.

Just kidding. No, seriously. It sounds reasonable if overunity can only happen if we somehow tap an energy source we do not know exists, but which is active in this device. Sometimes I remember Daniel Pomerlou with his magic free energy devices and I believe he can only make them work because he sees things common people can't see. These things might not be free energy either, but he knows how to tap into them.

However:
If the universe is infinite, and every singe being can extend the universe by simple imagination, then overunity could definitely be possible. Because it's not a limited box with limited energy, but an unlimited box with unlimited energy. Though it seems our 3rd dimensional existence lacks the appropriate knowledge to recognize it. If we could tap into this source it would be utter random luck. A chance one in a bazillion. A working device delivering overunity would probably never be replicable because of a miniscule detail which is active in that specific device, but is ignored by us or cannot be understood by our simple minds.

All speculation and philosophy.

[pauldude000]

@OP: You are right. Case closed. Let's shut down the forum.

Just kidding. No, seriously. It sounds reasonable if overunity can only happen if we somehow tap an energy source we do not know exists, but which is active in this device. Sometimes I remember Daniel Pomerlou with his magic free energy devices and I believe he can only make them work because he sees things common people can't see. These things might not be free energy either, but he knows how to tap into them.

However:
If the universe is infinite, and every singe being can extend the universe by simple imagination, then overunity could definitely be possible. Because it's not a limited box with limited energy, but an unlimited box with unlimited energy. Though it seems our 3rd dimensional existence lacks the appropriate knowledge to recognize it. If we could tap into this source it would be utter random luck. A chance one in a bazillion. A working device delivering overunity would probably never be replicable because of a miniscule detail which is active in that specific device, but is ignored by us or cannot be understood by our simple minds.

All speculation and philosophy.

Too many speculations and assumptions. There is no proof or evidence demonstrating that the universe is any manner infinite. Anything based on that line of thought is mere philosophical assertion.


However, the odds of finding a new, previously unknown source of energy would be, naturally, quite large. Philosophically speaking, mankind's largest arrogance is a claim of scientific piety mixed with a demonstrative penchant for an unspoken claim of absolute knowledge. We know very little in the grand scheme of things, but ask us what we know and there is seemingly little left to learn.


Stiff shirts, straight ties, arrogant attitudes, and pompous claims about lines we have drawn in the sand concerning things we only understand a simple overview of all summarize our nature, as beings, quite well.

[ARMCORTEX]

The reason is simly because you must take much time, energy, money.

And go fully to that project.

These aree all things of value, in a world of fast fast gimme gimme, 99.5%, the not so sophisticated fail.

[gauschor]

Philosophically speaking, mankind's largest arrogance is a claim of scientific piety mixed with a demonstrative penchant for an unspoken claim of absolute knowledge. We know very little in the grand scheme of things, but ask us what we know and there is seemingly little left to learn.

On a sidenote this makes youth after school go "huh... what shall we do? what's left to learn if we already know everything"

[conradelektro]

Over Unity is already here, it is called "the sun"!

The sun drives the growing of all plants and animals. The sun drives the rivers, the tides and the wind.

There are very simple means to harvest energy from the sun light (solar panels), to harvest energy from flowing water (power stations or water wheels) and to harvest power from the wind (wind mills, sailing boats).

For us mere humans the sun is limitless (a few more milliard years) and therefore free OU. And there are trillions of suns in the universe.

But we have come up with an economic system that makes everyone pay for energy. Therefore no OU.

Even if some one invents an OU mechanism (OU as imagined and defined by many OU enthusiasts), it will not be free for long. And besides that, it would destroy us. Just imagine free OU energy in the hands of an army. Or even worse, free OU energy in the hands of the politicians. Or the worst case scenario: free OU energy in your hands or in my hands!

Greetings, Conrad