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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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satyoda

Hi to all,

Quote Erfinder:
The only thing that I suggest you take note of is that Tesla is simply showing us how he is charging a capacitor with what he is calling radiant energy!  Look no further than that, this is all that I want you all to consider!!!


In the DVD of The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity Peter Lindemann is speaking about the fact what is happening when the switch is closed he describes it this way -----a slap with the hand on water-----.

for me is was a slap in my face

So here is my conclusion

If its done slowly you will feel almost no resistance, but at high velocity the water splashes away.
when the current starts to flow it will hit the closing material at high velocity bursting vaporizing (explosion) the material which generated the blue light.
at first the current is facing an enormous resistance and then it starts to flow.
but if it has this effect when a current starts, it also must have a similar reversed effect when the current stops. no resistance and implosion.
this would mean coil or wire with no resistance and in a suction state atracting energy, BEMF,electrostatics, radiant energy, magnecitys or what ever somebody calls it
The explosion only is at the beginning of the wire or coil but the suction is over the hole wire length.
this suction energy is stored in the capacitor.
If this is done with the right frequency only a litle would go out the source but the amount of suction energy will be bigger than the input.
As if it transformed current in to BEMF
the flow of the current must stop before it make a short in the circuit
their for the length of the wire and the speed of the current flow must be in relation to the switching frequency.
but in the motor we are not switching but revering the poles of the coils on the weak metal
for the field this would be the same as switching

in this article MAGNETIC CURRENT By EDWARD LEEDSKALNIN
He is talking about the same effect when his so called magnecitys stop to flow, the wire atracts.
Erfinder is right with his statement "You don't know what electricity is" Because we only observe what we can see or measure but we don't know the cause of it.

So what is current?

first we must figure out what is current in order to understand

Common sience: the amount off electrons flowing
But every buddy who nows more then us, say their are no electrons
Erfinder: They have us focusing on currents, when the true miracle workers are the fields which produce them.

So it seams that Edward talking about North an south pole particles would make more sense

mainstream tells us there can not be only a North or South pole (Mono Pole)

But the way I see it only Edwards explanation could explane if a magnet is broken in two pieces why it would behave as two separate magnets.

So if we would state that current is the amount of north poles flowing whirling thru a wire but stay mostly in the wire because the air has to mutch resistance and if the wire would be straight most of the North pole would reach the South pole and simultaneously we would have a reversed flow from South to North.

Now if the same wire would be wound like a coil some of the North and South pole will be thrown of the wire because of the centrifugal motion. if in the coil is a metal the free North and South poles will enter the metal an their for the metal acts as a magnet

Centrifugal gives birth to Centripetal

The North and South poles will be concentrated in the center of the coil 

Now if we look at all of this it would make sense that electricity as we see it is in fact the same as magnetic field and the flux lines as we would like to call it are in fact the mono poles flowing and the mono poles flowing is electricity and the amount of them the current.

So moving these mono poles connecting them to other poles will start the movement when we throw the switch on and open it fast we are connecting poles and if we are reversing magnetic fields we are doing the same.

I got one question for Erfinder how do I relate this to the potential?

well I might be wrong some where so please correct me as I want to understand 

regards,

satyoda

allcanadian

Nice post Satyoda, we need to stay on track
Your post is what I was getting at in mine, where is the energy going?
erfinder said what we see as magnetism is the expanded pole of electricity.
So Im thinking the Bemf is a radiation, an expansion radiated outward, and in nature you cannot have one without an opposite. Expansion--Contraction, a rythmic exchange. So if the Bemf is an expansion--Where is the contraction?
I do not think a motor uses energy, what we see as current is flowing energy, a two way process. we see this current flowing and driving a motor and somehow being "consumed" when in fact it cannot. what we cannot concieve is that we have a few options here, we could power a motor with DC and send the output to a lower potential source like a battery, charging it in the process. Or we could transform the outgoing current in to something different, convert it to a Bemf.
If you guys picked up on what I called a buck booster or DC-DC converter or switch mode converter, it has many names but is the same circuit. This circuit raises the voltage(potential) based on the switching speed, it is a Bemf that raises the potential.Why couldn't the inductor in the buckbooster be a motor? and why couldn't the higher potential output be stored in a capacitor until it's sent back to the same source only a half cycle later. It's all about the cycle, contraction--Expansion, Your circuit is "breathing" you should see it as breathing, inhale--- you have charged your system, Exhale--- your system has returned its energy to the source. Forget mainstream, forget the calculations, see your circuit as breathing, a cyclic interchange.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.


allcanadian

In my last post I forgot to say, Nature is our master--always has been, always will be. And then I was thinking about the breathing cycle---and then It hit me!
We have an electric motor, Russell and schauberger told us how it operates and we have seen it a thousand times.
It is rain.
Water is evaporated by positive charge(sunlight)-Emf
Water vapor is radiated, expanded upward and outward(a negative discharge)Bemf
Water vapor condenses in clouds(like attracts like) A condenser-a capacitor
Water falls as rain back to it's source(through gravity)Potential difference

Ahhhhhhh! This is it, our DC source is Water, how could we miss this , It is right in our faces, we are in it, it is over us- around us and we can't see it.
This is going to work,Im sure of it.

Let's look at this,conventional motors only use one aspect of this cycle,positive charge, thats it , no wonder they are so useless. Now take a fresh look at Teslas patents useing the analogy above and you will see what we have been missing. It was always there, right in front of us!
We could use a 12v battery, bump the voltage to 24v and send it back.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Maximumgravity1

I see my excessive slowness has once again beaten me to the punch in that you all replied since I began typing - but it is done now, and I am not deleting it !!  LOL

Quote from: allcanadianWell I have a question, Tell me why an electric motor uses power?

Hmmm...great question.  My initial thoughts are that it doesn't really use power - it wastes it.  By this I mean, there is no mechanism in place to return the current to its source, nor to make it more "usable".  This sort of goes along with Erfinder's comments about the true miracle being in the fields.  We are breaking the fields potential, extracting power from the positive - the centripetal - then instead of providing means for the field to re-expand and flow back again - or return to the source, we just let it dissipate - or remain accumulated as a giant potential.  We erroneously call the motion we extract "consumption of power", and see the potential build up as wasted in magnetism - something we must fight to overcome - to re-induce more electricity.  We see the part we use as being "converted" to kinetic energy, and assume it is all used up, not taking into consideration we have all that magnetic potential just sitting waiting for a place to flow.

Wow - how inefficient?!?!  Now, if someone could just invent a way to use that potential......

Hmmm....me thinks we are on the right track.....

@satyoda,

I think Leedskalnin was looking at both sides of the electric flow - only assuming they were individual entities - not part of the same field.  I believe when he defines his north and south magnets, he is describing the simultaneous effects of positive and negative flows of the electric field.  I believe the centrifugal action he describes is the negative - return-to-the-void flow - the magnetic.  The electric current - which he describes as individual magnetics - is the positive, the electric, the centripetal.  Both are the flow of the field - just manifesting themselves in different ways.  I think you will find what you are looking for.  In Leedskalnin's case, he was looking for the magnetic - the negative - and that is what he found.  In mainstream's case, they are looking for electricity - the positive - and that is what they find and manipulate.  I think the key is we need to look at them both the same way, and manipulate them as a single unit - and realize we can extract what we need, when we need it, to perform the appropriate work at particular points in the circuit - or at particular points in time.

I think in this light, it makes sense of why Erfinder's device uses the voided magnetic ring.  There is a huge potential of "Negatives" just circulating in that disk.  How we tap it and extract it is still a mystery to me - but I know the clues he gave us are that it lies in the only way we can influence it, through BEMF.

I am sorry to be repetitive, but I was back through some posts about Erfinder's device, and since these are the areas we are talking about, I had to bring them to light once again.

QuoteThe circuit is designed to concentrate fields, conduct fields, and causes the fields to preform work on the voided magnet ring as they pass through the circuit.
The arrangement of secondary windings produce a field which is more electrostatic than magnetic, this field resonates with, and adds to the field of the primary.  When the fields of the primary and secondary collapse they return to the source, the secondary returns to the battery, and primary to the HV capacitor.
P.S. All currents alternate, even DC!  You should think of DC as Extreme high frequency AC.  DC currents must alternate or there would be no motion, the currents would not flow!!!  Its all about fields.

Quote
Reason why the number of magnets is important...
Each segment centers a field which extends from the Bloch wall.  The Bloch wall the point of stillness, the point where the Creator centers the created, the point between the two poles.  Here it can be said that the potentials at the poles represent the total power of the neutral point, that the poles represent the neutral point divided, the neutral point, where one becomes two, and two become three.  The neutral and the two extended poles.

Each segment thus has it's own potential (both the potential and frequency of what we falsely call magnetism is extremely high).  If people knew how to construct circuits which functioned on the principles of induction versus conduction, from this one change an entirely new way of doing things would be born.  Connecting the magnets in series is like connecting batteries in series.  More batteries results in more current in the circuit, the same holds true for the magnet segments, as the two are mirrors of one another, just instead of conducting currents you are inducing fields.  Through the ring we connect to the wheel work of nature!!!

Here is a universal truth, when it's meaning is understood.

"Positive charge attracts positive charge and expels negative discharge.  Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."

                                                                        The Universal One

There is a current flowing within the magnet ring, a magnetic current.  The ring is mounted on an aluminium core.  Aluminium is paramagnetic.  Paramagnetism draws paramagnetism to itself and expels diamagnetism!!!!!!   Aluminium in comparison to iron doesn't concentrate the paramagnetic field.  In the aluminium the field sloshes back and forth spilling diamagnetism into the circuit.

QuoteThis circuit was designed to demonstrate the following basics, as these basics form a quarter of the foundation needed to understand this technology:

1. How EMF is transformed into BEMF, how these two are the one and the same and how they differ. 
2.  How a battery functions in this circuit as if it is a capacitor.

3.  The nature of paramagnetism, and diamagnetism.

4.  How differences in potential are the cause of motion. (EDIT: I think this one is for Allcanadaian's question about how a motor uses power.)
The field of the magnet ring is contained within the ring, moving at almost an instant velocity radially within the material in two directions simultaneously, however the North to South direction is dominate.  This field can only be influenced by BACK EMF

Since the field of the ring is moving at almost an infinite velocity, the wheel can be made rotate at an almost infinite velocity, construction methods being the only limiting factor

There is a machine which does not have moving parts which produces BEMF from EMF, using only magnets and coils.  But what does this benefit anyone if no one knows why it functions. 


Positive Charge = Paramagnetism = EMF
Negative Discharge = Diamagnetism = BEMF

"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge.  Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."


How many different ways can we word this???

EMF attracts EMF, and Expels BEMF.  BEMF repels both BEMF and EMF.

Paramagnetism attracts paramagnetism, and expels diamagnetism.  Diamagnetism repels both diamagnetism and paramagnetism.

Paramagnetism attracts EMF, and expels BEMF.  Diamagnetism repels both BEMF and EMF.

EMF attracts paramagnetism, and expels diamagnetism.  BEMF repels both diamagnetism and paramagnetism.

etc, etc, etc.  I think it makes it clear by key use of particular words - expel and repel - that we are talking about the same entity - ALL THE TIME.  One can only be its opposite when it is dominating the other.  The field is either electrostatic dominate, or magnetic dominate.  At all times it is both, but at one time it only exhibits dominance of one over the other.  The only way the field "goes away" is when it is voided.   Its opposite has to cancel it out at equal frequency and magnitude.  It does make me wonder how that applies to Erfinder's voided magnetic ring....hmm.....