Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[Trump]

Hum,

Seems a lot of people have left this forum and moved on. I guess if Erfinder has not responded back to the E-mail to move on I guess we don't move on until he is ready for us to move on. I had Internet connectivity issues today and some yesterday so I had better go back and read some of the post. At this time I hope the ones that are left and any new people who are on this site can put things together and categorize them to the patent and whip this puppy out . All those who moved on I bless them. It is not that anyone is dumb or can't learn, it is more of putting the words in the patent to break things down to a point of understanding, or that is my way of thinking of it anyway. I see the post of the Positive coils and Negative coils and the sweet spot and why they do as they do, I guess I should have posted all of my thoughts, but it would have been just a copy of what some of the other people posted, but it looks like I should have done it anyway. Again I only see a few  people left so why not group up and list things in a category that relates to the patent and then everyone should be able to understand it and then everyone will move on.  There may always be new people coming on board. All we can do is make everything clear and relate it to the topic and not just come up with something off the wall. We need to stay focused and that was hard to do before as so many people had there own way of thinking of what they thought was going on and left the others behind in a daze. All I am saying is to put the topic to each patent and explain it that way, then maybe Erfinder will understand that we are ready to move on, then it will be hard again as we will be trying to catch up with the rest again at the next level.
Let me know if you feel I am off track. I just would like to keep learning and not so much of the fact to know about magnetics and flux, but to relay it to the patent and then when we all understand the patent, maybe Erfinder will tell us what he had wanted us to learn and say we learned it.

Regards


Trump

[satyoda]

Hi to all

This is getting some were.

Erfinder said in his post regarding Magneto-Dielectric-Energy:

Magneto= Pulsing (expanding-contracting....imploding-exploding)
dielectric= Poor conductor..... Stores electrostatic charge
Energie=kinetic work

magnetism= electricity= static electricity (electrostatics)
electricity= electrostatic not as spark but as Stress field
The secondairy coil is the source of the stress field (the working field)
stress Field is produced and produces rotary motion

so the secondary coils are the source of the stress field, the eletrostatic are the stress field and the dielectric stores electrostatic charge.
so if the coils are the plates of a capasitor then where is the dielectric witch stores the electrostatic charge?
if it would be the primary then this would explane the transfomer working in order to step up
erfinder told us that the source could only take as much BEMF back then it could store so if the source is filled up, the source and the secundary start to act as a capasitor where the primary becomes the dielectric. Would this be the Special capasitor Erfinder is refering to?becaus if the BEMF cant flow back thru the primary coils it would see it as a poor conductor and their for store it.
I think this might be a new look to it, just thinking out loud.

regards

satyoda

[Trump]

satyoda

Go back a few post's as what you are asking has already been clarified. I to must go back a few post's as so much has already been stated so there is no sence in trying to  re-invent the wheel. We must all work together, talk things out and keep on track,  main stream as we call it. and again please let's all relate things to the patent, like you  have done satyoda You will find your question answered  on the capacitor, not being a special one, but tuned to the coils.


Trump

[allcanadian]

Trump you said there is no use in re-inventing the wheel, but re-invent it we must. We have a wheel we all recognize in tesla's motor patent, but his works nothing like the one we know-- it has been re-invented by Tesla.

And Satyoda just gave us our answer!
Let's look at the answer he gave us.

so the secondary coils are the source of the stress field, the eletrostatic are the stress field and the dielectric stores electrostatic charge.
so if the coils are the plates of a capasitor then where is the dielectric witch stores the electrostatic charge?

Yes, where is the dielectric? There is none, which makes the secondary G coils a sort of antenna radiating electrostatic charge. Erfinder said the secondary circuit drives the machine by radiating a stress field.

if it would be the primary then this would explane the transfomer working in order to step up
erfinder told us that the source could only take as much BEMF back then it could store so if the source is filled up, the source and the secundary start to act as a capasitor where the primary becomes the dielectric. Would this be the Special capasitor Erfinder is refering to?becaus if the BEMF cant flow back thru the primary coils it would see it as a poor conductor and their for store it.

So if the secondary G coils are not our special capacitor erfinder mentioned then as satyoda says it must be the primary. And here we have a transformer made of the primary coils E and secondary coils F. We also have what amounts to two plates(the coils) seperated by a dielectric (the coils insulation)----A capacitor.
What ties this all together is what satyoda quoted erfinder as saying-"the source could only take as much Bemf as it could store".

So satyoda may be right, the source doesn't supply current only potential because that is all it can supply. Because between the source and the secondary circuit there is a capacitor the transformer. The secondary coil G is the antenna radiating the potential as a stress field. The capacitor H in the secondaries acts to ensure the electrosatatic charges alternate. Also if as erfinder said the Bemf charged the source then what happens when the Bemf is negative potential as it is?
What would happen is the negative Bemf potential would enter the positive terminal of the source charging it, because the source negative terminal would repel the negative Bemf. It's like a two wire circuit in one instance and Teslas single wire circuit in the next.
I like this theory- It may be the best yet because it's simple as erfinder said it was.

[barbosi]

First, I'm back using my original account. Thanks to all trying to help me with suggestions, Stefan did it and I thank him too.

Erfinder,
Now I want to ask some clarifications, so we don't go further with misconceptions. Just paying attention to details, that's all.

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To recap, the currents flowing through a conductor (primary) represents positive charge.  As long as the current is allowed to flow positive charge will dominate negative discharge!

The collapse of a magnetic field signals that we have transitioned from a condition where positive charge dominates to one where negative discharge dominates!
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In the whole explanation you use the term current and suddenly you talk about the collapse of magnetic field. Should we understand "the collapse of current that is allowed to flow positive charge" (aka EMF, electric current - using today's terminology)?

Another question (this bothers me for quite a while):
Is about the word association, "Positive Charge"... why not "Negative Charge"? I know must be a reason for that, Someone chose these words for a good reaon. Can you point to some specific reading material please? (well, the same for Negative Discharge)

Thanks.

PS: Is this what Leedskalnin was talking about with north and south magnets, flowing screw like in opposite directions?