Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[Magluvin]

  I think the coil functions just like Tesla designed it to.   Store up oscillations impressed on it by the 2 or 3 turn primary.

Yeah, it is shown a 2 turns in the patents.  A 2 turn coil is a bifilar coil.     3 turns will have a bit less voltage difference between turns.

@Jbigs

The reason I call it a transformer, some of Teslas patents show source coils and receiver coils(pancakes with 2 separate turns on the outer perimeter) where the source or transmitter(some drawings are hardwired Tx to Rx some antenna) seems to use the 2 outer turns as a primary winding and the Rx the 2 turn is like a secondary. Its the way I see it anyways.  There may be more or less to it.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Magluvin:

Here is the full PM:

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You are hammering Jbigs about him posting what you see are untruths. Well what about your statement here...."As far as the Wardenclyffe tower goes, it was a viable early attempt at very long distance communications.  But the notion of using it to power ships at sea or power individual houses in cities goes, that would never have worked.  It's simply too inefficient, and most of the broadcast power would never make it to the end users, it would be lost."

Where did 'you' get that information from other than in your head??? You now need to prove or show reference you what is in quotes above. Show me your sources for what you are saying there.
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Why do you act like this Magluvin?   Do you just 'hate' me for the sake of hating me?  What is your motivation, I would really like to know?

MileHigh

Your request for 'references' is just you hounding me like some kind of crazy person.  It's nonsensical idiocy and you make yourself look like a fool.  I made a few general comments about a clip that was linked to that discussed the tower just in passing.  It's not even directly related to the thread.  But it does come from a similar theme.  People believe that the tower could 'power the world' without examining the where the power would come from and how widely dispersed the power would be the further you are away from the transmission source.  It's similar to saying that the Tesla series bifilar coil can do all sorts of amazing things with no real serious data to back it up.

I will sometimes challenge people's ideas if they are too far out and there is nothing that you can do to stop me.  And I know you enough to know that you don't actually disagree with me here but you are afraid to say it.  Meanwhile when you make a mistake yourself, you don't have the courage to acknowledge it and thank the person that corrected you.

This is not 'about Tesla,' this is about a patent for a coil design from the 19th century that just happens to have been done by Tesla.  It's time for you to stop the Straw Man nonsense and grow up and act like a civil person.  I am not going to be hounded by you acting like a crazy person.  You are the one that needs to study up if you want to make an improved contribution around here.  You confusing the AC and DC operation of the TESLA COIL as per what is actually stated in the patent being a prime example.

It's time for you to stop acting like some kind of attention wh*re buffoon and be a real person.  Stop your immature 'bad boy' nonsensical idiocy and grow up.

MileHigh

[jbignes5]

Yeah, it is shown a 2 turns in the patents.  A 2 turn coil is a bifilar coil.     3 turns will have a bit less voltage difference between turns.

@Jbigs

The reason I call it a transformer, some of Teslas patents show source coils and receiver coils(pancakes with 2 separate turns on the outer perimeter) where the source or transmitter(some drawings are hardwired Tx to Rx some antenna) seems to use the 2 outer turns as a primary winding and the Rx the 2 turn is like a secondary. Its the way I see it anyways.  There may be more or less to it.

Mags

Well that could be one way to try and I encourage you to do so. But as I have stated I have gone outside of the patents scope. I have already done prelim testing on the bifilar coils. Many different designs and my conclusion is that this would make an excellent receiver of the electric field around the outside like you have stated. If I am correct about the coils other aspects then we should be able to use the coil much like the amplifier(gain medium) in a laser setup and intensify the current packets or impulses traveling into the bifilar coil. This should excite the current impulses and greatly amplify the current.


What Tesla was trying to do with the Tower was not broadcast anything in the air. It was via the Earth! The air was a sort of virtual ground. This is the concept he tried to make an analogy to with the elastic ball (earth). Pump the earth with huge amounts of voltage and the receivers convert this huge voltage into real current. He was litterally gonna use the earth as a high voltage anode. The tower was capped with a huge capacitive mushroom to push against. This is the reason he buried long pipes into the ground. Since the type of energy he was using was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be safe to the human in contact with it that the danger was minimal.


Some people say things before they even know anything about someone. Without reading anything like his notes and literature some people can not know how this technology works. They try to guess with their current knowledge which is not based off of Tesla's methods and mistakenly assume it can not possibly work. There is no danger to this stuff and Tesla repeatedly shown that by passing the energy through his body and even the bodies of others as in the worlds fair where he shown his AC system in full scale. Tesla wasn't ready to release the full details at that time but was completely sure it could do no harm to any life and had even the audience do the same, passing of the current through their bodies.


I will not defend myself any longer to some people. I have researched Tesla and his works for over a decade now and if Some people don't want to do the same then they should just leave it be and let us go about our business. I will not share with someone who isn't open minded about this process. They seem to know everything about the magnetic field and very little about the electric field.


See these guys see the electric field as something of a transient. They spend their entire career shunting the transients to ground and just ignore what it is. But Tesla knew way more about this field. He intensively studied the effects and how to make it completely safe. IF you don't know about the linemen that died while he was working for Edison I would look into it because that is exactly what turned him onto this stuff. Blue fire they called it.


I am very tired now. Pretty late here and I have a doctors apt. tomorrow.

Till next time.

[Magluvin]

This is not 'about Tesla,' this is about a patent for a coil design from the 19th century that just happens to have been done by Tesla.

The title of this thread starts with Tesla. If some of the posts veer off of the coil subject matter but still with Teslas name on it, its good. Just because you dont want to here it, well whoopty doo. Too bad. Tesla is the subject as maybe we want to understand the man, and this coil is part of that.

Mags

[jbignes5]

The title of this thread starts with Tesla. If some of the posts veer off of the coil subject matter but still with Teslas name on it, its good. Just because you dont want to here it, well whoopty doo. Too bad. Tesla is the subject as maybe we want to understand the man, and this coil is part of that.

Mags

I agree 1000% with your comment.


If we are to understand This coil and the patent about this coil we have to understand where Tesla was in his thinking and the proper purpose of this coil. This is the way I do all my Technician work for computers. You must do your research and this allows you to handle the device more effectively.


I am in the process of researching the time line of the patent when looking at Tesla's other work. I believe if we look at a timeline of his investigations and subsequent patent releases we will find out how this patent came about and what is it's relevance to his research at the time.