Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

Webby, the photo of your drawing is very difficult to read.  Would you do me a favor and please:

1) Make your lines clearer.
2) Mark your dimensions.

Thanks.

[minnie]

  Hi Webby,
                  appreciate the effort, thank you. Unfortunately the drawing isn't showing very clearly.
    The lines of the paper are parallel with tubes and this makes it difficult to see, if you've got
    some plain paper it would help a lot.
                                                       John.

[MarkE]

Webby that is much easier to see.  Thanks for doing that.  So just to be clear:  The red is a solid casing, and the green portion is an insert that is:

a) a solid piston?, or
b) water being pumped into the cavity from below?

[powercat]

Actually, if one has a device that is a "stub" of a selfrunning OU device, but still needs some power to run, that is great!

As I've shown with the HappyFunBall SNOT testbed, it is possible to know, with great precision, just how much energy needs to be supplied to such a system, per cycle, to keep it running. This is the "baseline" condition. For the HFB, it's some tiny fraction of a Joule per cycle; my measurements of the ball's KE are actually at the _microJoule_ level of precision.

Now, any changes you make to your device or its operating parameters can be compared to this known baseline condition, to see if your mods need _more energy_ replaced to keep running, or less energy. If the latter, then you can KNOW with some confidence that your changes did take you "closer" to being able to "self run".

Just as I can now put any configuration of magnetic gates or ramps into my HFB system and measure the resulting amount of energy that needs to be replaced to keep it running as before. Any improvement over the non-gated, non-ramped version would indicate that the Gate or Ramp arrangement was indeed helping, by putting some energy into the system or reducing critical losses.

You will never see this kind of experimentation from a Wayne Travis, though, because it will reveal things he does not want you to know.

Still feel a self-runner is the only test that counts, because normally other tests end up being about measurement errors which tend to be drawn out lasting many months or even years , the self-runner either runs or does not run, like in Wayne's case (NOT)

[minnie]

   Powercat,
              I agree entirely about measurements, they're so difficult to get right.
   Someone once told me about checking tyre pressure with an ordinary gauge.
   Can you be certain you you don't let a bit of air escape during the process?
   I realise that was a silly thing and it wouldn't make any difference in reality
   but it was just to make a point.
                                            John.