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Big try at gravity wheel

Started by nfeijo, May 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM

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Grimer

Quote from: Marsing on January 11, 2014, 09:24:04 PM
i am doubt this.  just wait ,  time will prove.
What TK asserts is untrue. There is believable historical evidence that Bessler harnessed gravity with his wheel. Read John Collins book. No doubt TK also ignores Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and claims there is no evidence that Jesus existed.


Time will indeed prove - and jolly soon.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

Red_Sunset

Quote from: Grimer on January 11, 2014, 03:59:07 PM
................................................................
Using a multi-storey building as an analogy the we see the conservation of momentum when we are on the same floor,

the 10th say, .....................the 8th floor, is the jerk floor. ........................................................
Relativity applies to all of us,
"TK" is correct (on his floor) and so is "Grimer" (on his floor).  The floors happen to be "not the same floor"
That something hasn't been EVER/NEVER observed on one floor doesn't mean it can not exist on an other floor.   
The likely hood (chance) that it will ever be observed on the initial floor does become remote (something akin to winning the lottery). Although to say that NOBODY will EVER/NEVER  win the lottery is just as unlikely.
So do not nail all the doors shut.

We need to respect someone like "for example TK" to have a difference of opinion, so long he considers it "his" opinion, not the NEW general LAW for all mankind (as it is so often perceived by wording)
Our strength lies in diversity and difference, different ways of thinking, exactly the ingredients that drive prosperity. 
Do not squash it.  (as is done by to those extreme religious groups as related to religion...)
My 20 cents,  Red_sunset

Grimer

Quote from: Red_Sunset on January 12, 2014, 01:32:23 AM
Relativity applies to all of us,
"TK" is correct (on his floor) and so is "Grimer" (on his floor).  The floors happen to be "not the same floor"
That something hasn't been EVER/NEVER observed on one floor doesn't mean it can not exist on an other floor.   
The likely hood (chance) that it will ever be observed on the initial floor does become remote (something akin to winning the lottery). Although to say that NOBODY will EVER/NEVER  win the lottery is just as unlikely.
So do not nail all the doors shut.

We need to respect someone like "for example TK" to have a difference of opinion, so long he considers it "his" opinion, not the NEW general LAW for all mankind (as it is so often perceived by wording)
Our strength lies in diversity and difference, different ways of thinking, exactly the ingredients that drive prosperity. 
Do not squash it.  (as is done by to those extreme religious groups as related to religion...)
My 20 cents,  Red_sunset


You're a miserable relativist, Red Sunset and relativism has been rightly condemned for denying the principle of contradiction. There's not your truth and my truth. Religious groups realise this. Only one can be correct. The rest that claim to be correct are in error.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

MarkE

Quote from: Grimer on January 11, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
What TK asserts is untrue. There is believable historical evidence that Bessler harnessed gravity with his wheel. Read John Collins book. No doubt TK also ignores Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and claims there is no evidence that Jesus existed.


Time will indeed prove - and jolly soon.
When might soon be?  Bessler made his claims 300 years ago.  Since then no experiment has reproduced his perpetual motion claims.  John Collins is among those who have tried and failed.  Gravity stubbornly continues to demonstrate that it is a conservative field.

tim123

September 2013 - machine complete:
19/10/2013 - Foto Oficial nº 52 - Final da terceira de três etapas
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January 2014 - still no video of it running... Why not???  :(