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Big try at gravity wheel

Started by nfeijo, May 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: MarkE on January 28, 2014, 06:24:01 AM
............................................... all you need to do is show your work and have it hold up to scrutiny and all will finally be able to see that HER's claims have merit.  I look forward to your analysis.

MarkE,
Since you have shown to be good with these details, it will be my pleasure to allow you that priviledge.
I am sadly very bad with pennies and cents.
Red_Sunset

Red_Sunset

Quote from: MarkE on January 28, 2014, 06:24:01 AM
Sorry Red_Sunset but if you want to know the change in energy in a compressed gas volume, you need to know both the starting and ending volumes and pressures.In other words you are doing work compressing a gas volume and again, you need to know the starting and ending pressures and volumes..................................
......................................... 
MarkE,
The energy absorbed into the gas as a type of spring effect is not lost,  it is recycled.
So the gas volume quantity is not directly of importance except for design sizing and pre-provisioining
Red_Sunset

MarkE

Red_Sunset are you pulling a brave Sir Robin of Camelot?  Going, going, ...

Red_Sunset

Quote from: MarkE on January 28, 2014, 06:39:49 AM
Red_Sunset are you pulling a brave Sir Robin of Camelot?  Going, going, ...
MarkE,
My advantage is that I know what I am talking about after diligent research. 
Most members contesting here, are doing this like you "off the cuff".  That puts you at a great disadvantage.

I see my effort here as providing a contribution to the community,  sharing what I think is worthwhile to share.
It doesn't matter really to me if you or others believe me or not.  The knowledge I proclaiming is not even my own. (sure, a productive response is always preferable)
I would never respond to a complex mail without sleeping over it for at least one night.  One can appreciate a well though through question rather than wasting time with off the cuff mungo jumbo noise which is often missing the point and is disturbing.

It is clear to me that you didn't understand the process presented and therefore revert immediately to the standard conservation responses or looking for spelling mistakes so to speak. I know that still some parts are hidden, like how the switch from big to small lift area takes place. I know you can not visualize how this can happen.  It took me also quite some time to figure this out but it can be done.  I believe that is specific Inventive Property, and is not exactly mine to reveal, I respect Wayne and I wouldn't think about it otherwise. If he chooses so, he can.

At this point there is no purpose to go further until there is some common ground.
I didn't feel you made any contribution in that direction, sadly to say.
Hopefully others can.

Red_Sunset

MarkE

Quote from: Red_Sunset on January 28, 2014, 07:25:31 AM
MarkE,
My advantage is that I know what I am talking about after diligent research. 
Most members contesting here, are doing this like you "off the cuff".  That puts you at a great disadvantage.

I see my effort here as providing a contribution to the community,  sharing what I think is worthwhile to share.
It doesn't matter really to me if you or others believe me or not.  The knowledge I proclaiming is not even my own. (sure, a productive response is always preferable)
I would never respond to a complex mail without sleeping over it for at least one night.  One can appreciate a well though through question rather than wasting time with off the cuff mungo jumbo noise which is often missing the point and is disturbing.

It is clear to me that you didn't understand the process presented and therefore revert immediately to the standard conservation responses or looking for spelling mistakes so to speak. I know that still some parts are hidden, like how the switch from big to small lift area takes place. I know you can not visualize how this can happen.  It took me also quite some time to figure this out but it can be done.  I believe that is specific Inventive Property, and is not exactly mine to reveal, I respect Wayne and I wouldn't think about it otherwise. If he chooses so, he can.

At this point there is no purpose to go further until there is some common ground.
I didn't feel you made any contribution in that direction, sadly to say.
Hopefully others can.

Red_Sunset
Red_Sunset no amount of obfuscation or deflection will remove the elephant from the middle of the room.  You have been offered the opportunity many times to show any condition under which conservation can be violated.  You have not done so.  You have offered: conflation of force and power for energy, incorrect calculations, argument from ignorance, and appeals to outright magic, such as your magic lever.  Now you are resorting to the Emperor's New Zed:  Only smart people understand the unstated principles of operation.   

Sorry, but you've made no sale.