Big try at gravity wheel

[mondrasek]

see3d,, I still do not get what that means,, ...

see3d is the username for forum member Dennis Brown.  He is the author of the simulation code in the two pics at the bottom of Fletcher's post.

[TinselKoala]

I've been searching for the Flash animation that used to be on Travis's web pages, but it has been removed now that he's changed the name of the operation and isn't making outrageous free energy "already have a self runner" claims in public any more.

I can't believe I didn't save it while I had the chance. Does anyone have a copy or know where to get one?

Meanwhile I thought I might as well post the two "demo" videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKWpR0seK0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSy_33t86gc


@Mondrasek:
While I was searching, I found a bunch of images of your experimental rig. I had forgotten how nicely constructed and set up it was. Why don't you break it out again? It might be instructive to play with it a bit again to see how it behaves.

[mondrasek]

@Mondrasek:
While I was searching, I found a bunch of images of your experimental rig. I had forgotten how nicely constructed and set up it was. Why don't you break it out again? It might be instructive to play with it a bit again to see how it behaves.

Hmm.  Instructive to who?

Funny thing (to me) is that physical build followed many days of CAD model drawings and calculations where I could not figure out how to prove or disprove anything.  I have probably a hundred hours of time wasted trying to figure out how to figure it out!

At the time I built it there was much request for a presentation of the "3-layer ZED that is clearly OU."  Wayne was not providing that, so I thought I would attempt to build one so that we could all have _something_ other than words to play with.  But it appeared to me that no one was interested in discussing any testing of that build or the test results in the forum.  I personally could not figure out how to calculate efficiencies from the test data, so I resorted to the method that Wayne had presented.  We discussed the validity of that method very briefly in PMs, but that broke down almost immediately into the same rhetoric as in the open forum, ie. no discussion of the experiment and data.

That build was intended to be a stop-gap until a sim or better build was presented.  With no apparent interest in what I had constructed, I shelved it and waited.  Unfortunately the sim and/or better build I have been waiting on has not materialized publicly.

With the reintroduction of the ZED topic in this thread I began thinking about it again (as have so many).  Applying some things I've learned (or think I've learned) since those past days I think I finally figured out a (fairly) simple mathematical test to see if a simple analysis of the ZED system where the ZED is substituted by a hydraulic cylinder analog is, in fact, a valid substitution.  But once again it does not appear anyone (except Red) is willing to agree that what I propose is a valid test of that assertion.  So why do it?

Cheers,

M.

[MarkE]

Mondrasek if you are willing to take the time and expend the effort to do it, I continue to encourage you to set-up an energy balance for a ZED or ZED-like device.

[Red_Sunset]

Question:
Does anybody have some idea to what a validation by Mark Dansie of a OU device would cost?
I believe he comes with a team of engineers.

Red_Sunset