Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

The Keenie.


How it works and why it works.

Mr. Grimer:  Would you please be so kind as to start a new thread for your new topic?

[LibreEnergia]

The Keenie.


How it works and why it works.


...In other words to send CCW jerk outside the system to be lost in miniscule change in angular momentum of the earth - the same action that takes place on a much large scale with the slingshot/gravity assist technique for speeding up space vehicles...

Except... In a system where the device is receiving a gravitational slingshot from earth AND  that device is launched from earth, the amount of energy that an be gained from the slingshot it exactly equal to (or less than) the amount of energy required to position that object such to a position where it can take advantage of such an energy assist.

No free lunch to be had here.

[Grimer]

I owe the idea of recoil to Hans von Lieven.


In my view his paper (link below) is the best single source for info on the Keenie.

http://www.zen111904.zen.co.uk/THE%20ROAD%20TO%20PERPETUAL%20MOTION.htm


I'll have to find the relevant quote.

[TinselKoala]

Frank, you might as well be describing a pink invisible unicorn carousel in detail... because it has just as much reality as your "Keenie" fantasy. No amount of your detailed description can alter the fact that IT DOES NOT WORK. So really, you should quit acting like, and claiming, it does, until you are able to demonstrate it. Until then it's just your fantasy, nothing more, and we are trying to discuss reality here, not yours and webby's fantasies.

[MarkE]

I owe the idea of recoil to Hans von Lieven.
...

Mr. Grimer is there some reason that rather than start a new thread with your new topic, you insist on trying to change the subject of this thread which long ago got redirected at the Wayne Travis claims?