Rosemary Ainslie Circuit Demonstration, June 1 2013

[Pirate88179]

I am not sure what happened as I was in the end watching the you-tube feed. I got cut of at 4 hours just as it got real interesting with Mr Weir was starting to make some good points and obviously was trying to get to the bottom of the claim.
It was a shame he was not there from hour 1 and directing operations.
I am going to suggest that they do another demonstration with a real camera and Mr Weir directing them. But with a 1 hour time limit.
Mark

Yes Mark, and also suggest that they use the tripod that, as TK has shown in one of his screenshots, was there in the room but not in use. That would have helped a lot to keep the auto focus from running all over the map like it did.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Their intent was clearly not to display data in a usable form, it was to obfuscate and dazzle with irrelevant detail. Just as always.

Why display two irrelevant traces on the screen during the Fig 3 trials? Why configure the webcast to follow the speaker instead of remaining on the subject of interest? Who needs to see minute after minute of a blue head silhouette, or a page from Ainslie's paper, when the action is happening somewhere else?

I will be very surprised if we are allowed to see the scope captures that Weir guided them to take.

And Mark wants _another_ demonstration? It took her over two years of stalling to get around to doing this one, stalling, insulting, free publicity, the posting of her error-filled daft manuscripts to Rossi's JNP blog.... all of that while we have been waiting for her to do _this_ demo.

But it's fine with me if she does another demo. This one should have been enough for any masochist with a weird sense of humor, though..... but I'd love to see another one, there are lots of my videos she claims she can refute ..... just be sure to have her raise 850 mL, or 700 mL or whatever the most recent edit says, of water to 104 degrees C using the waveform (verified) shown in Figs 6 and 7. The paper says the Water Temperature was that hot, it is right there. She has told us, though that "they" never actually measured the temperature of the water. But the paper clearly refers to the water temperature, and the temperature of the water, in several places. So, just like the Figure 3 scopeshot.... make her do it, or throw her out of the tavern on her ear when she cannot.

So, Is there some discussion happening right now that we peons are not privy to? I find it remarkable that the thing was cut off at 4 hours, not so much because of the time limit... .but because it wasn't restarted immediately since the analysis was just beginning.

[SeaMonkey]

@seamonkey..true,so true.i concur sir but let us watch at a distance,perhaps the children will oneday realize that the easteregg is pinned onto their backs and not hidden in the house.perhaps they will stand in front the mirror oneday and see a surprize.wisdom grows from self-reflection they say

Aye, this strikes me as being very sage and
sound advice/counsel.  What could have been
a productive discussion has been greatly
overshadowed by the vendetta.

[markdansie]

Hi TK
The reason I want another demo is Mr Weir brought a level of expertise and analytic skills which was useful for the purposes of the demonstration. Other than those in the Google Hangout, the rest of us got cut of from the remainder of the demonstration and discussion on YouTube. I followed up with Rosemary informing her of this. Rosemary gave me a brief update of what followed. As a result of his intervention, Rosemary is issuing some modifications to some of her claims. Mr Wear also suggested some further tests that may make things more definitive.
My intention is to draw some conclusion to this and I have suggested another test takes place, as a lot of information was missed by many of us. I hope Mr Weir and others will do such a test.
I respect you analysis, and skills but I really believe Mr Weir did help Rosemary and others see this in a new light, perhaps not overunity but at least something people can reach consensus on.
Mark

[TinselKoala]

I don't think that "Rosemary says" can be considered a reliable source of information, especially not now. I would like to hear an account of the post-game discussion from somebody _other_ than Ainslie, because we have all seen many times how she garbles and misrepresents the words of others, and even her own words, from moment to moment. She is simply not credible, least of all when speaking of her critics.

I hope somebody recorded the conversation, or that Weir can give us his recollection. That, I would believe. Ainslie's.... not so much.

I have the entire four hours of the YT demo recorded, though, and if I can stand to watch it _yet again_ I'll edit out all the dead air and post it somewhere for a permanent record. You can bet the existing YT posting will disappear quickly.

And "Some modification of her claims" is not going to cut it. The very basis of her claims has been cut out: the apparatus was either rigged or malfing during several of the reported trials, invalidating them and the conclusions drawn from them, and even that notwithstanding..... much of what is reported is simply impossible under the conditions stated, like the "104 degrees water temperature". These ridiculous exercises in mendacity that she pretends are scientific reports _must be retracted completely_, errata issued and apologies made by Ainslie to everybody she has slighted.

There is also no experimental support for her "outlasting the watthour rating" claim, because as I have shown that claim comes from her bogus calculations and is completely wrong. She has never actually tested her batteries properly, and the chemistry laboratory she sent her entire apparatus to last year for independent testing, did not support her claims and in fact found that the batteries discharged normally. (Why does no one ever ask her about this laboratory and its findings? Why does she fail to mention this test when she's talking about all the replications and tests that she claims have been done? I know why.)