Magnet question

[elecar]

Thinking about it, the best explanation for the method of the movement in the twin set up is Newtons cradle. Where kinetic "potential" energy is stored in the balls. In this case the cams. The major difference is that you only impart the initial energy into the Newtons cradle by physically moving the first ball yourself and adding no additional or equal force each time eventually due to losses it comes to a stop.
But in the case of the twin motor the magnets repeat the work "force" on each rotation and at the collision point the potential energy is transferred  to the next cam, which then becomes the next source of potential energy. Newtons cradle with an engine !!!

[elecar]

Gyulasun, that could well help in the twin set up where less kinetic energy would need to be transferred to set the stationary rotor into action.
But on a single shaft it can only do 1 of a few things. Be equal to, greater than, or less than. Weaker sticky point, new sticky point.
So it still requires some interaction.
On the twin motor that interaction comes from the work being done by the rotating half each time. Like in the Newtons Cradle example, instead of two fingers releasing the balls once, the two fingers are there every rotation doing the same amount of work each time.

So the torque can be used for work, and the kinetic "potential" energy can be transferred at the impact at the end of each rotation.

[gyulasun]

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But on a single shaft it can only do 1 of a few things. Be equal to, greater than, or less than. Weaker sticky point, new sticky point.
So it still requires some interaction.

Well, I see it a bit differently.  Suppose you have a single rotor facing the 'ramping' attracting circle around and the rotor arrives at the 3 o'clock positin as the drawing just shows. And you hold a small repel pole magnet against the also small sized magnet pole fixed onto the other end of the shaft. The fixed magnet rotates together with the shaft and encounters with the stationary repel magnet only at the 3 o'clock position. IT requires interaction but the sticky point at the attraction point of the main rotor - stator is weakened by the repel 'sticky' point, so as a result no sticky point from the shaft point of view. No?

[elecar]

I only have a hobby interest but I would have thought that the repelling magnets would have a gate all of their own to deal with ?
Perhaps there is a way to balance them so that they at least help reduce the lock on the rotor.

[ace569er]

Well, I see it a bit differently.  Suppose you have a single rotor facing the 'ramping' attracting circle around and the rotor arrives at the 3 o'clock positin as the drawing just shows. And you hold a small repel pole magnet against the also small sized magnet pole fixed onto the other end of the shaft. The fixed magnet rotates together with the shaft and encounters with the stationary repel magnet only at the 3 o'clock position. IT requires interaction but the sticky point at the attraction point of the main rotor - stator is weakened by the repel 'sticky' point, so as a result no sticky point from the shaft point of view. No?

You are very close to understanding what you need to do. Note use can't cancel a force. One will be stronger, even if slightly or only in a give point. So the sticky point will always be there. Also you need to make it so that it can gradually reduce. As a new force gradually increases, or it will still be far too strong. So it not that simple of a mod. You are for the most on the right track.  Also the sticky point will ALWAYS, mathematically, be a greater or equal to, in force. Then the drive form it's  gate in itself. So a longer drive adds to a stronger gate lock always. After so far of an increase the drives acceleration is to weak and the drive weakens. While the lock still gets stronger. So a long gate is more hurtful then good.

Also For the last two layouts I showed. At no point is more than one arm in the sticky point. At any degree of rotation. They always equal to same at all points. When you set magnets in a inclined configuration (like the V-gate) they are both contributing to the movement as much as they are against it, this means that for each next magnet that is closer to the center pushing/pulling. There is also another magnet before pulling/pushing it back, if only with a smaller force. In the end you are adding and subtracting force from each magnet and the total result of all forces is actually smaller or equal to the last magnet (the one at the sticky point). So for the last pic even though there is an 11 to one push at ALL points, of degree, of rotation. It is not strong enough. Even a 15 to 1 push, is to weak for the same reason. You just have to build larger to make the the degree distance between arms larger then the flux of the last locking magnet. To get 15 to 1. But like I said before you must increase the drive while weakening the sticky point.(last magnets effect.) Then use something else to overcome the the sticky point. Because even calibrating it alone, still will not make the increased drive of the gate stronger then the last magnet. It will just put them next to equal. Though that in itself is priceless.