simple overbalanced wheel with flywheel

[Rafael Ti]

Hi all
I think I've never seen a simple solution like this on internet. A flywheel attached thru chain and sprockets helps to overcome the problem of fluctuation of momentum. Semicircle shape of arms ensure a smooth movement of weights.
You start this spinning the flywheel. 
What do you think?

All the best

P.S.
I am sorry Mr Bessler I have revealed your secret, but it's about the time... 

Vidar... would you like to come and say that this kind of wheel will never work?

[gyulasun]

Hi Rafael,

Indeed an interesting setup,  and the first question from me is: if you remove the flywheel, then the rest of the setup can keep up rotation? (albeit with fluctuations)   If not, then it will come to a stop with the flywheel too, after a certain time.
I like the ramp (indicated in red) which does not let the balls roll fully away from the shaft so the arm of the balls force is shortened.
Have you already managed to test partly or fully this setup?

Thanks,  Gyula

[totoalas]

Hi
Just imagining this in a horizontal view
the flywheel / rotor is connected to the bigger wheel and the outer has magnet also on same rotation ?

[Rafael Ti]

Hi Rafael,
Indeed an interesting setup,  and the first question from me is: if you remove the flywheel, then the rest of the setup can keep up rotation? (albeit with fluctuations)   If not, then it will come to a stop with the flywheel too, after a certain time.
I like the ramp (indicated in red) which does not let the balls roll fully away from the shaft so the arm of the balls force is shortened.
Thanks,  Gyula

Thank you Gyula. Answering your first question: when you remove the flywheel the setup will keep rotation if the wheel itself is heavy enough comparing to the mass of weights. And the mass of wheel is located as far from the center as possible. The separate flywheel in picture is symbolic only. We know that the wheel itself (green colored parts) can act as a flywheel. Do we need flywheel? Of course yes! As lower number of weights as higher level of fluctuation. And the fluctuation of momentum kills rotation at some point.
The shape of arms/chambers and ramp is a separate thing. There is lots of possibilities here.

[MileHigh]

The "secret" to these Bessler wheel things is to keep your eye on the ball.  You see that the ball can move to the far right side of the wheel and you think that will give you the torque to keep the wheel turning.

The problem is that you are looking at the wrong thing.  The only thing that you should be looking at is the vertical up-down displacement of the ball.  Any horizontal left-right displacement of the ball as the wheel turns can be ignored.  The reason that it can be ignored is that when the ball moves horizontally its gravitational potential energy does not change.  A "gravity wheel" is supposed to be based on gaining gravitational energy, and by definition that is a function of the up/down displacement of the ball.

So, now look at the diagram and only follow the up/down displacement of the ball.  You can see that as the wheel turns the upward displacement of the ball is equal to the downward displacement of the ball.  Thus the "net energy gain" of the moving ball is zero and the wheel won't work.

That might be upsetting to some, but the real thing here is to try to understand that you can safely ignore the left-right movement of the ball or balls, and just look at the up-down movement.  This is a leap of imagination and understanding and insight that you must take to understand why no Bessler wheels will ever work, no matter how simple or complicated and intricate the design may be.

Just look at any Bessler wheel design and follow the up-down movement of the ball or balls and ignore the left-right movement.  You will notice that no matter what, the upwards displacement is equal to the downwards displacement for a net energy gain of zero.