Just how big is the FE Scam Industry (in $ millions annually <10, 10-100, >100?

[Ein~+ein]

Mark Dansie or Sterling Allan might be able to give us a good estimate.

I'm referring to any unsubstantiated claims that individuals, organizations, and even governments buy or invest in.  Don't think I need to list them all but a PESN search yields 361 hits for 'scam', and the same for 'fraud'.  Here's but one:

Explosion at California water fuel research company kills inventor

On Thursday afternoon, 28-year-old inventor, Tyson Larson was killed in an explosion that ripped a hole in the roof and blew out the back doors to a Simi Valley building of the family member's company, Realm Industries, which was seeking to develop his water fuel technology.

The explosion was likely a result of an attempt to compress hydroxy gas -- never a good idea. Also, it turns out that two associates of the company were indicted in March for "defrauding 300 investors of $7 million with ploys including a process for creating alternative fuel from water."

Let's exclude those investments into pure research where no claims are made and the outcome is unknown.  Mark provided an example on one of his posts where a friend invested $750,000 to test an idea that proved futile.   

[e2matrix]

Did you get too much flak at Energetic Forum on your similar thread and decide to come over here?   Really,  what is your intention with this?

[Ein~+ein]

Did you get too much flak at Energetic Forum on your similar thread and decide to come over here?   Really,  what is your intention with this?

No, I actually ran two critical threads there unhindered.  I actually didn't expect to last there that long.  The first time I was threatened was when Aaron took a request for evidence as a personal attack. Surprisingly, he hasn't deleted my posts---go and read them if you like.  I've been a member here for several months but I wanted to verify Aaron's assertion on that post (I've linked to), that Lindemann et al are really pseudoscientists.  I mean, how else would you describe such a 'different' science that dismisses mainstream science?  Seriously!  Given the fact that forum is entitled 'Renewable Energy' and this website is 'Overunity', is it not ironic that critical comments are less tolerated there than here? 

Why am I here?  Clean energy is in everybody's interest, is it not?   I first got interested in FE when someone from where I'm from made headlines with an 'FE discovery'?  It took some cybersleuthing on my part because, as Mark Dansie will tell you, even engineers and experts can be fooled.  Even after Mark assured me it was fake, it took time to be convinced of that but recognizing the telltale signs did it along with an email to a partner.  So, why are you here?

[profitis]

@einstein.dont go jumping to giant conclusions too quikly.but i agree with you that many scamguys out there.as i said to markdansie before its actualy a good thing that scamguys exist as they are creating a security bubble for the real guys and massively drawing attention to the quest for alternate energy.

[MileHigh]

Between 10 and 100 million is my estimate.