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Company,s that doing research in magnetic gravity in Europe?

Started by umit, August 04, 2013, 07:52:43 AM

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conradelektro

Quote from: umit on August 09, 2013, 12:58:35 PM

I know everything, steorn yildiz the canadian the australians the german that is in prison etcetera.
I dont want to involve in such things.

Umit

You asked for a company and you gave yourself the right answer: there is no company! And if there is such a company, stay away from it.


Quote from: umit on August 10, 2013, 05:46:16 AMI really would love to hear your comment if we lived in the passed, when the air plaine whas not invented yet, or televesion not invented yet.

For sure you would say,,you are a scam, only birds fly, and a television hahahahaha only a theatre with a box around it can be made and nothing else.

Progress comes from good ideas which have been checked many times by many people. The important thing about "good ideas" or "inventions" is that they are measured, tested and checked many times by independent parties. If independent measurements and tests are confirming the ideas and if independent checking is also showing what is claimed, we have progress.

People publish their findings and if other people can repeat these findings independently, we have progress.

I hope you see that secrecy can not provide progress, because the independent checks can not be done.

One way to avoid "secrecy" is to file a patent. For many reasons you do not want to do that. And I agree, I would also not file a patent as a lone inventor.

Now I repeat what I want to say:

You yourself found out that there is no company which can help you. (And I agree.)

You yourself do not want to spend money on a patent. (And I agree.)

My suggestion is therefore "total openness".

And this suggestion is logically and practically sound even if I am the worst and most negative person on earth. My worst personal habit is to try to tell the truth. Many people a very much offended by truth. And I am myself offended if someone tells the truth about my actions.

Greetings, Conrad

umit

You know how i am thinking, or what i want? you are really annoying.

QuoteNow I repeat what I want to say:

You yourself found out that there is no company which can help you. (And I agree.)

You yourself do not want to spend money on a patent. (And I agree.)

My suggestion is therefore "total openness".

And this suggestion is logically and practically sound even if I am the worst and most negative person on earth. My worst personal habit is to try to tell the truth. Many people a very much offended by truth. And I am myself offended if someone tells the truth about my actions.

Greetings, Conrad


I didnt found out yet, that there is no such company exists, because i start searching recently, and keep on searching.
(so you agree with your own conclusion, thats fine)

My self that i not want spent money to patent? who told you that? where you get this information from, are you know what you talking about Conrad???
If i hade money i patented it, never ever said that i not want use my own money for that.
(so you agree again with your own self build conclusion)

How i see it Conrad, and others will see it now to, your conclusion is false, you know you are just annoying others with self made conclusion about others.
How can people take you now serious after this mistake?

That says something about yourself Conrad, the posts before i will also not take serious anymore due to your false statement.
Good luck
Regards,
Umit

conradelektro

My argument is: file a patent or be totally open.

Now you tell us that you want a patent. Fine, do that!

You identified problematic companies. Now you tell us, that you hope to find a good company in a problematic business segment. Fine, do that!

I am sorry that I can not help you to file a patent and that I can not help you to find a good company in a business segment that never produced a good company.


My contributions in this thread about "patents" and "total openness" make sense in a more general way. I am sorry that you see everything linked to you personally.

And you are right, I was rude. But I easily get upset if someone says "I have something extraordinary but I can not tell you what it is and how it works". I am convinced that this is a silly way to talk. You might not have said that directly, but you for sure insinuated it.

Greetings, Conrad

umit

Dear Conrad

Again you make your own statement about me what is wrong.
Please focus on the treath.

I am searching for one company that  HELP with providing materials and place to extend the duration of my project,

Second we spoke only about steorn, and the people i wrote aboute is just to let know that i am familiar with the OU world.

Third, i never asked help from you to fill a patent, so no apolagize, also i did not ask anybody for this in my treath, just sincerely asked if someone knows such company,s.

4, i not say i want patent it in first place,

Again you turn up the things what actually spoken about.

Why should i openly showing things, or announcing things, are you mad?
Thank you again, for your honoust but wrong statement.

Please. if you have nothing to do, bother someone els with your false and self made statements.
And stay next timeon track,instead of taking your time to write a whole story,
take your time to read First the story.

Kind regards,
Umit


gyulasun

Hi Umit,

Well I would like to know your opinion on the setup shown in that patent whether its working principle makes it possible to operate on its own as described.  Of course I fully aware of how hard to answer this question without building it but I thought you have already a setup working on permanent magnets and gravity just like this setup so chances are you have a much better insight and judgement by just taking a glimpse on it.  I also know that there must be a number of ways to utilize magnetism and gravity, not just like this setup or your own setup.

Unfortunately I am not aware of anybody who already built this and what they found, and I have not done so either. My opinion is that this principle has a chance to work on its own: when the magnets are on the right hand side of the wheel (i.e. away from the parallel ferromagnetic plates) the repel force can defeat the spring and shifts the outer magnet radially away from the shaft, and when the magnets are inside the paralell plates, the spring (due to the much less repel force) is able to release its pushing force acquired in the outside position and the outer magnet is shifted closer to the shaft, thus unbalancing the wheel. Maybe you can tell something just by a glimpse what I am not yet aware of which may sweep all my belief away. At least, this setup is the one which I consider as having a chance for operating on its own at all, out of the many hundreds or thousands of setups which are a nonsense in this respect, be it in a patent or shown on youtube, whatever.

So this is why I asked your opinion.

rgds, Gyula