Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[MileHigh]

Nelson:

So your example has absolutely nothing to do with this B&L device.

Enjoykin:

I don't follow LENR, and it has absolutely nothing to do with this B&L device.

Anybody is welcome to contribute to this thread.  You can forget your "OU poster conspiracy theories" also.

All:

What if I say to you that the government is lying to you?

I suppose that you will get all upset and say that it is wrong.

What if I say to you that the big corporations are lying to you?

I suppose that you will get all upset and say that it is wrong.

What if I say to you that Barbosa and Leal are lying to you?

Oh..... You don't have much to say, you become sheep.

What if I say to you that Clarence is lying to you?

Oh.... You don't have much to say, you become sheep.

Okay, not all of you become sheep, but some of you clearly become sheep.

I am offended that Barbosa and Leal are liars.  I am offended that poor Clarence is a liar and can't admit that he never made a long-term test of his replication, and now he plays the "guru that doesn't know how to tie his own shoes."

And I feel dismay that very few people around here are able to have an honest discussion about the merits or the lack of merits for a given free energy proposition.  Even people with very basic electronics skills should be able to recognize how silly and stupid it is to have a device that includes two short-circuited toroidal transformers.

So I made my points about this silly project and had a serious technical discussion about it.  Nobody has tried to argue my technical points at all.

So let's all sit back and watch the people struggle with their replication attempts while Clarence struggles and tries to navigate himself through a world of electronics he knows very little about.  Clarence is just a victim of Barbosa and Leal, pretending he knows what he is doing, and ultimately creating more victims when people try to replicate his unproven nonsense.

This is a classic case of reality being stranger than fiction.

MileHigh

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson:

So your example has absolutely nothing to do with this B&L device.

You think that has nothing to do with the B & L circuit because basically you have a circuit idea in your head so you do not understand ...
  But i will not waste time with you because you do not need to.
You say things, and then when someone argues say that is off topic lol

You affirm that a closed loop in the secondary of the transformer was not more than one resistance or am I invent?.
And in the B & L circuit loop that would only behave as a resistance useless, you're the one that you claim you!
After that point you want to be? The talk alone to try to convince others of your beliefs? Or leave the topic proceeding smoothly as it should be happening instead of pass to be center of attention for all the wrong reasons.

thank you

[MileHigh]

Nelson,

Please go ahead and explain to all of us how you believe that the B&L circuit works.  Discuss the input, the output, and the mechanism for producing free energy.  Please tell us what the pair of toroidal transformers is supposed to do in the circuit.

MileHigh

[NickZ]

  I think that MileHigh has a point. And that until more proof is shown, especially by members of this forum,
it may be better for everyone to just wait and see what results will actually be obtained in the future. As I doubt we've heard the last of Barboza, Leal, or anyone else, with replications or similar projects. Or, some jail time... if his magic box is just a hoax.
However, they didn't need to use all those expensive ground rods.

   Good advice: To not go buying all those rods, and placing them in the back yard,  just YET.
   Time will tell,  it always does.
 

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson,

Please go ahead and explain to all of us how you believe that the B&L circuit works.  Discuss the input, the output, and the mechanism for producing free energy.  Please tell us what the pair of toroidal transformers is supposed to do in the circuit.

MileHigh

I talk about this subjects months ago ,  and put diagram and videos and so on ,and i talk a little bite on some posts ago too.
I will not talk about Clearance circuit because this topic is not about Clearance circuit.
I only will resume because as you see my english is a bit bad .

1- The current measured in loop that is show in videos B&L is not any power gain.
If the loop have to many turns it will heat like you say , but if the loop are correct it will not even warm.
It will be used only to saturate the toroidal core. If you have some Gauss Measure instrument you will see that correct loop will maintain the core with high magnetic flux . This is only a saturable reactor with feedback. With some diodes you get a Mag amp.

About this circuit generate free energy :

I say to many time that original circuit have some bad interpretations and people need to read all the patents associated at B&L patent.
But basically in my circuit tests i only  see a improvement not free energy. A reach a 80% less consumption in inductive loads to 50% by resistive loads.Many people in this forum  merely say that simply the meter was wrong and I was stealing electricity power grid
I decided to go to study the effect of circuit on DC away from the power grid.
But actually i know i´m not wrong  because with DC i achieve very good results in my tests.
So, for me is interesting see the results of Clarence and for much people:) seems to .

I have been able to see and test that there are several ways to get the same main "objective" .
So many inventors report the same results but with other configurations .
Basically has all to do with all matters of conversion efficiency.
I think this circuit is not a generator , only a converter or a "pump" .
Energy is free in Nature  but the conversions process not .

I will not talk much more , because if you have interest you can search the old posts to see what i think about other things like the input and output in circuit .

Thanks