Building a self looping "SMOT"

[happyfunball]

Hi happyfunball, I am not a scientist, I barely understand the concept of CoE or 2LOT, I played with magnets trying to get a conventional SMOT to work, I was inspired by Bills videos. During the course of trying it out I noticed strange (to me) behaviour when one side of the magnet array was removed. I toyed with it until I got the ball to rise to the top of the ramp and then roll back out of the ramp whilst still in the magnetic field.
I do not know what it is classed as, I tried to find out by posing a question on another thread which disintegrated in pretty much the same way as this one.

Here is my take as best as I can describe and my own understanding. The magnets can "pull" the ball up a ramp.
The ball is able to reverse and escape the field of that ramp from a height greater than it started. So in this case magnets = up - gravity = down.
All the threads I ever read said pretty much the same thing, " a smot can not be looped because the ball always leaves the ramp at a height equal to or lower than the point it started." 
That was not what I was experiencing when using the effect instead of the conventional smot ramp with 2 arrays.
One thing I can tell you is that when making any application you must steer clear of  OU or perpetual because it will not even be entertained. And that is why I have never and still do not claim either.

Ok. But I think you're being quite modest, because if as you say the actual device runs continuously for 3 hours you would most likely have something that is of almost incalculable value. Certainly more than just a toy.

[elecar]

Hi Libre our little Marsupial's sidekick, you said.

The video presented by 'elecar' is in this category. Sure the device completes a single loop but I'm very suspicious of the editing at the beginning of the clip. The hand placing the ball could easily have imparted some kinetic energy to the ball to allow it to complete a rotation.

Yes I cut out more than 7 minutes of me moving the magnets to where they worked. I have already said I will repost the video, again just an attempt to derail the thread as all my videos have been fairly presented. I will be loading them on here as opposed to youtube so they are "PRESERVED" 

[JouleSeeker]

Powercat, its clear that we look at this research very differently, fine.  Despite your naysaying comments, I have hope that ONE of these paths will produce a REPLICATABLE self-looping device, and that will benefit mankind. 

Elecar's approach, using NON-CONDUCTING PERMANENT MAGNETS, looks promising.

Libre writes:

" I'm very suspicious of the editing..."

Do you think that cheap pot-shots like this serve any worthwhile purpose?  will they help us find out whether or not magnetic fields hold a key?

[powercat]

Hi powercat, I really do not mind the skeptics taking part in the thread, I do take exception to being called a scam, fraud, liar when those skeptics have not even given me enough opportunity to show the effect working.
I have never asked anyone here for anything, I have already said it, but not now and not in the future. There is nothing here for sale.
Yeah I will attack idiots with the same vigor they attack me, I mean TK I kind of understand because I dared call him out when he was leading the attacks on an elderly lady and stalking her, purely for his own gratification.
Watch the pattern Powercat, TK makes a comment and then his minions feel brave enough to step into the affray.

But more importantly watch how they never concede any ground even when they are shown they are wrong. Remember I asked you to dare to state whether the ball performed better with or without the magnets ?

Now show me where the 2 cretins gave any ground ? you can not and will not be able to, because the only reply from one of them on that matter was simply an attempt at moving the goal post and changing "what they meant"
They are not here for anything but their own gratification, heck, they do not even believe OU is possible. Think about that powercat, I hate golf, I think its a waste of time....... So guess what kind of forum I wont be joining !!

Watched the pattern, the affray always starts when somebody makes a claim they can't prove, generally in the other threats there is peace and harmony, it's good to hear that you're expecting other people to be able to match your results and produce a self looping model, I look forward to seeing it soon.

[LibreEnergia]

There is no indication at all of pushing in this video.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3rugO_RMg&feature=youtu.be

Maybe you're hallucinating

I was referring to this video http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/dlattach/attach/128652/

and no, I was not hallucinating.