How to make multiple Kicks

[MileHigh]

The electron volt is a well understood concept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt

In physics, the electron volt (symbol eV; also written electronvolt[1][2]) is a unit of energy equal to approximately 1.6×10−19 joule (symbol J). By definition, it is the amount of energy gained (or lost) by the charge of a single electron moved across an electric potential difference of one volt. Thus it is 1 volt (1 joule per coulomb, 1 J/C) multiplied by the elementary charge (e, or 1.602176565(35)×10−19 C). Therefore, one electron volt is equal to 1.602176565(35)×10−19 J.[3] Historically, the electron volt was devised as a standard unit of measure through its usefulness in electrostatic particle accelerator sciences because a particle with charge q has an energy E = qV after passing through the potential V; if q is quoted in integer units of the elementary charge and the terminal bias in volts, one gets an energy in eV.

Note the high voltage spikes you get from coils (are those the kicks?) are due to the fact that the instant before the inductor produces the high voltage spike there must be current flowing through the coil.  Without the current flow then you can't get any voltage spikes.

The "old school" vs. "new school" angle is mitigated by the fact that what your circuit does only has one real and true explanation for how it works.  There is no old vs. new in that sense.

Anyway Bruce, unless you show something, we are all just navel gazing.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

About Farmhand's comment about learning basic concepts and basic electronics.  The "future" is here, you really can go up to your home computer terminal and punch in the codes to find the information that is in the information banks.  You can even get information from the Library of Congress.  It's all up to you.

[SeaMonkey]

Invigorating discussion gentlemen!  Well done
so far.  Very much food for thought has been
presented.

Radiant Energy can be produced in a multitude
of ways;  particularly feeble bursts in "circuits"
or wires which seem to have no path for current
flow.

Since Radiant Energy is the product of transient
impulses (yes there is current flow too) there is
a sound explanation for each and every instance
of the mysterious "pulses" or "kicks" which have
been observed.

Those of you who are familiar with transmission line
operation, antenna resonance and Time Domain
Reflectometry already know the answers.

Open Circuits do permit current flow when switches
are thrown!

[Farmhand]

The electron volt is a well understood concept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt

In physics, the electron volt (symbol eV; also written electronvolt[1][2]) is a unit of energy equal to approximately 1.6×10−19 joule (symbol J). By definition, it is the amount of energy gained (or lost) by the charge of a single electron moved across an electric potential difference of one volt. Thus it is 1 volt (1 joule per coulomb, 1 J/C) multiplied by the elementary charge (e, or 1.602176565(35)×10−19 C). Therefore, one electron volt is equal to 1.602176565(35)×10−19 J.[3] Historically, the electron volt was devised as a standard unit of measure through its usefulness in electrostatic particle accelerator sciences because a particle with charge q has an energy E = qV after passing through the potential V; if q is quoted in integer units of the elementary charge and the terminal bias in volts, one gets an energy in eV.

Note the high voltage spikes you get from coils (are those the kicks?) are due to the fact that the instant before the inductor produces the high voltage spike there must be current flowing through the coil.  Without the current flow then you can't get any voltage spikes.

The "old school" vs. "new school" angle is mitigated by the fact that what your circuit does only has one real and true explanation for how it works.  There is no old vs. new in that sense.

Anyway Bruce, unless you show something, we are all just navel gazing.

MileHigh

Referring to the part of your quote I made bold, my point is that for there to be current flowing through the coil in the first place a potential must be applied to it first. First is the applied potential then is the current in the coil then is the spike when the switch is opened to keep the current flowing. One of my points is that to get the charge/current flowing
in the inductor/coil to begin with so that the coil has current flow to produce a spike, a potential must first be applied to the coil.

I can't argue with the technical part and have no desire to as it is more than likely spot on correct. But for us laymen we do not need to know that.

I'm not sure about you but I am tired of linking to and explaining basic electronic theory to the same people over and over. A thread here would be much easier to link to. And much of the confusion surrounding terms could be addressed.

How do we actually measure displacement current directly with a meter?

Cheers

[MileHigh]

There is current flow on the surface of any metal or conductive material.  It's sort of an invisible current flow that you don't normally have to be concerned with.  If you have a hollow conducting sphere and bring an electric charge close to it, the electric field inside the sphere remains zero.  It's because the electrons redistribute themselves over the surface of the metal sphere as they react to the approaching electric charge and its associated electric field.  That means there is current flow.  The same sphere will react to the radio waves from an AM radio station and currents will oscillate back and forth on the sphere.

So that means that essentially any piece of metal you look at will have that property.  Electrons are always in motion on the surfaces of conductors because of the ambient radio frequency environment we live in.  And then as SeaMonkey stated that leads to antennas and stuff like that.  In a way antenna theory is just a repeat of basic electronics concepts but at radio frequencies.