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Engineering

Started by philm, January 09, 2014, 11:11:11 PM

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philm

Good  evening everyone,


For an engineering project that I am required to do in class, I will be replicating the Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell. For my proposal, my adviser would like me to show proof as to way the Meyer cell is better then regular DC electrolysis. As in, why would I want to build a meyer cell over DC electrolysis. What are some benefits of doing this (of course, I have to back this up with evidence, whether it be data or a quote from a creditable source)


I do know that the Meyer cell produces more hydrogen in a given time and uses less power. But does anyone on the forum have any source material which states that? Or any source material at all showing that the meyer cell is better then DC electrolysis?

TinselKoala

You should be aware, if you aren't already, that certain electrolysis cell designs will actually boil the water between the plates, adding a lot of water vapor/steam volume to the "gas" output, without actually electrolysing this water. To get a valid gas output measurement you need to make sure that you aren't boiling water, even in tiny spots between electrodes, and that your output gases are thoroughly dried before the volume/flow measurements are made. Excess gas in the form of plain old water vapor has fooled researchers before, into thinking their cells made a high volume of hydrogen and oxygen. This can happen even if the bulk electrolyte seems cool.

philm

Tinsel, I was not aware of that, thank you. I will look out for that in my cells. Although , according to Stan's memos, he said that he was using less than 2 mA of current. I doubt that this would provide enough heat to boil water. If that is the case then we just found a new source of free energy.

Now I know that some people will come and post on the forum about stuff and they are not serious. Here are 4 pictures of a small scale prototype that I built today. I will use this for immediate testing until a much larger one is built.

philm

Good evening everyone,

I do have an update today. I received the metal for the electrodes. I am building it according to Stan Meyer. 0.75 in OD tube and 0.50 in OD tube. I am attaching a picture of the two tubes. I hope you all enjoy!


Oh and in case you were wondering, both of the tubes are 20 feet long

vineet_kiran

Try electrolysis of water with sodium cathode and platinum or carbon anode which donot dissolve under positive potential.

Sodium is a highly reactive metal which readily reacts with water releasing hydrogen and sodium hydroxide. But if you maintain negative potential on sodium, it will not get dissolved in water. Instead, the hydrogen ions surrounding the sodium cathode react among themselves releasing large quantities of hydrogen.

Sodium is not readily availalbe in market because it is a highly unstable and reactive metal. You have to prepare sodium in laboratory and preserve it by immersing it in a non reactive liquid like kerosene or petrol.

If you have facilities in your college to prepare sodium,  just try and see.