Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mondrasek]

I suggest that you leave your loopy fantasies about me being TinselKoala behind and get around to stating your:  math, assumptions, logic, and conclusions, so that we may check them as you asked folks to do in your OP.

As soon as you don't show up right after I tell TK that I am waiting for you to respond!

But if you would like to get back to the Analysis...

I have presented several options on how to continue.  Do you have a preference or soul you like to have them presented again? 

My own personal preference is that we Analyze the State 3 diagram that I last posted.  I believe that is what you also posted last as a final State 3.

Please let me know if we can continue using your posted State 3 Analysis diagram or not.

M.

[MarkE]

As soon as you don't show up right after I tell TK that I am waiting for you to respond!

But if you would like to get back to the Analysis...

I have presented several options on how to continue.  Do you have a preference or soul you like to have them presented again? 

My own personal preference is that we Analyze the State 3 diagram that I last posted.  I believe that is what you also posted last as a final State 3.

Please let me know if we can continue using your posted State 3 Analysis diagram or not.

M.

Where are your:  math, assumptions, logic, and conclusions that you have asked people to check.  The ante has been to you for a long time now.  You claimed to have obtained a result and that you wanted people to check your work for errors.  Yet, you seem extremely reluctant to show your actual work.  Why is that?

Your contention that I am TinselKoala is delusional.

[mondrasek]

Where are your:  math, assumptions, logic, and conclusions that you have asked people to check.  The ante has been to you for a long time now.  You claimed to have obtained a result and that you wanted people to check your work for errors.  Yet, you seem extremely reluctant to show your actual work.  Why is that?

Your contention that I am TinselKoala is delusional.

And yet my question to you if it is acceptable to continue the Analysis from the re-posted version of one of your "State 3" diagrams goes unanswered.

"MarkE", I am ready to analyze any of the ZED systems we have been discussing.

Please choose one?

Thanks,

M.

[MarkE]

And yet my question to you if it is acceptable to continue the Analysis from the re-posted version of one of your "State 3" diagrams goes unanswered.

"MarkE", I am ready to analyze any of the ZED systems we have been discussing.

Please choose one?

Thanks,

M.

You are being non-responsive.  Either you have: math, assumptions, logic, and conclusions that you want people to check as you stated in your OP or you don't.  In the first case there shouldn't be anything preventing you from publishing such.  In the latter case you do not have any OU conclusion that needs to be explained.  Choose and proceed as you will.

[MarkE]

Not so fast.

From level move the system with an external source.

Now start with one riser up and the other down.

The raised ZED has its bag compressed and the water is inside the ZED.

The lowered ZED has its bag full of water and the ZED is in the rest state and has less volume of water inside.

When the system is allowed to change, the raised ZED's water moves into the bag, under pressure, and expands the bag.

The expanding bag pushes on the lever connected via a pivot to the other ZED's bag.

The other ZED's bag is being compressed to move the water from the bag into the ZED.

So the lever is up on the raised ZED side and down on the lowered ZED side.

The tall pole with weights and the tube is connected to that lever and is leaning towards the lowered ZED side.

As the pressure from the raised ZED is expanding the bag it is compressing the other ZED bag AND rotating the tall pole with weights and the tube, the added resistance of the tall pole with the weights and the tube are converting some of the lost pressure, aka the "tyranny" of it all,, into an elevated GPE, this motion continues until there is insufficient pressure in the raised ZED side to continue, at which time the assist rams are applied.  The raised ZED side still has pressure within the ZED and this now assists the assist rams, as well as the tall pole with weights and the tube has now crossed over the vertical point and is also assisting by dropping the GPE to complete the motion of compressing the lowered ZED side bag and raising that ZED up.

During this cycle of change the raised ZED lowers and the lowered ZED raises.

So you put energy in to raise one side of the glorified teeter-totter, then did something with an "assist" device where it is unclear you obtained the energy that provides the needed "assist", and moved the teeter-totter to the other side.  Where was useful work done?