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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 08, 2014, 09:51:50 PM
Sorry MarkE I thought that restating that when the risers goes up that they also move the production ram up and that places the fluid in the ram under pressure and moves it into the pressurized external accumulator,, was not needed.

I was referencing TK's post on what he thought the relationships were.

Any excess input to the external accumulator could be used to run an external motor to extract useful work.

If the low pressure return to the Reserve tank is not sufficient to meet the volume requirements of the production ram going down then extra fluid is drawn in from the Reserve tank.  When this becomes a sufficient drop in the tank level the system stops working while the pressure and fluid is used by the external motor and fills the Reserve tank back up.

The assist rams get there fluid volume at pressure from the external accumulator and return the low pressure fluid into either the Reserve tank or the production ram.
Anything that cycles internally is part of the system.  Show energy that is delivered from within the system to outside the system in a way that can do useful work outside the system.  If one takes energy out of the accumulator then that creates a deficit that the system must replace.  So, if you like: account some amount of energy removed from the accumulator cycle by cycle and where you are going to replenish that energy from.

mrwayne

Quote from: MarkE on March 08, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Mondrasek has had three weeks to show his analysis.  We all still wait.  Perhaps we will never see it just as we will never see a working free energy generator that you claim to have from you.Oh perish the thought:  People actually know that I follow the physics and not silly misdirection like the "Travis effect".You'll have to ask Mondrasek to come up with some evidence.  Sadly, it is not something that either you or he offer.Are events in motion?  Maybe yes, and maybe no.

Maybe you are right, I give up.



MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 09, 2014, 12:17:18 AM
Maybe you are right, I give up.
If you do it will give you more online time to go buy some linear compression springs to make a new super ZED, or cinder blocks to make an ultimate ZED.

orbut 3000


Maybe I'm only a little sockpuppet (according to wayne) but my button-eyes seem to have spotted a knitting pattern here.


On one side we have MarkE's open and transparent effort of a mathematical analysis of an ideal 'ZED'.
On the other side we have a paranoid, insult slinging, evasive OU claimant who refuses to answer simple
questions and fails to substantiate his unusual claims.


I think I'm still on the fence.
I hope Mr. Wayne Travis can turn this around and is able prove MarkE wrong.

MileHigh

It's so funny because there is pattern to the thread.  Evey now and then Wayne pops in for a "Twilight Zone" moment where he tries to reset the theme back to "It's real, you just don't get it but we do."

QuoteI know that Mondrasek is an excellent engineer, and  has went to great length to analyze the system (independently) and has his conclusions.

Its up to you - I suggest you let him lead his thread - I know you 'think' you know the answer - he does.

Meanwhile the sausage factory remains shut down.

MileHigh