Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[powercat]

This is my Final Farewell to O/U.com

What again    if I had a dollar for every time you said you were leaving I would now have at least $4.00, you just can't help breaking your word, you are a true and genuine liar, your historic words are there for all to see, from the man who says he always tells the truth, you are such a deceitful person, the name Wayne travesty fits you perfectly, you are a complete travesty.  It is so obvious after all these years that you do not have what you claim, that's why you waste your time here regurgitating the same old "it works in my opinion because I say so" and when you next return nothing will have changed just like all the times before, because you don't have a working device and you are a conman.

[minnie]

    Webby,
                you do seem to come across as a Travis supporter.
    I'm not a scientist but I do have experience of real life
    machines.
         I haven't learned a thing from Travis,Larry or Red_Sunset,
    with the exception that there was "fow assist" on Larry's
    diagrams.
         MarkE has put in a huge amount of effort trying to help
    us see what's going on, then he gets treated rudely by those
    he's trying to assist.
         TK. has done some amazing videos on a whole range of
    topics, and they're that well done that it's easy to see what's
    going on.
        As for Magluvin--- I just don't know.
    Just think about it, have you learned one fact from Travis &
    Co? As far as I can see all that comes from Travis is page
    after page after page of waffle.
                                             John.

[MarkE]

PURE BS TK.

I am not amused with your behavior at all TK.

I answered this question DIRECTLY and in the thread.

Do you wish to tell any more lies about ME TK?

What do you believe that you were ever able to show with that mock-up of yours? 
Was your opinion affected by the 'prize money' paid? 
What was the reason that the 'prize money' was paid?

Do you believe that the density of water materially changes depending on where you put it or what time it is?
  If you do, then do you have any examples where that can be seen?
Do you believe that the density of solids materially change depending on where you put them or what time it is?
  If you do, then do you have any examples where that can be seen?
Do you believe that the ordinary air can be made to deviate from the ideal gas law in an energy favorable way?
  If you do, then do you have any examples where that can be seen?

And if you either don't believe any of these three things, or don't have any examples that you can point to, then on what basis do you have any faith in HER/Zydro's claims?

[minnie]

   Was the Koala right with ZED, zero energy device, or would LED be nearer
   the mark, lossy energy device?
                                              John.

[MarkE]

   Was the Koala right with ZED, zero energy device, or would LED be nearer
   the mark, lossy energy device?
                                              John.

Well, we deal with these very basic things that may be strung together in non-intuitive ways, but they still retain their fundamental behaviors.  At the end of the day, the machine sloshes around some masses of different types.  Various of the mechanisms are fundamentally lossy.  One cannot even break even with them.  The more such processes that are concatenated the greater the percentage losses each cycle.