Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

LOL - You need to mature past the black box...

That is your preconceived requirement - which creates limited thinking.

I will check in next week and see if you have actually tied to unravel the system.

Smile

LOL.  Black box evaluation is a standard method of evaluation.  It is just so funny to see you keep pretending that there is something special about your Rube Goldberg contraptions.

[MileHigh]

The Wayne strip tease, another recurring theme:

I will check in next week and see if you have actually tied to unravel the system.

Mark has evaluated the system and has shown that it doesn't work.  Why this tease?

Why don't you strip down and show us the sausages?  Why the eternal tease?  There is no answer to "unraveling the system," it's just you shaking it.

When will you demonstrate a continuously running ZED with no external input outputting measurable power into a load?

That's the question that you ignore, and most of us know exactly why you ignore that question.  You won't do it because you can't do it because you don't have a working system and in fact you have never had a working system.

Just one look at your various diagrams and contraptions and props tells me that right away, without question.  And I don't need a little flash from you saying that I "don't get it."  There is nothing to get.  Don't point towards your supporters because this thread has proven that they don't understand many basic concepts and are trying to understand what is going on with guidance from Mark and TK.  They aren't understanding and they can't formulate rational arguments with basic energy balance equations to put forth their propositions, they don't have the knowledge to do that.

You know there is a nasty card that you can get from both the "Chance" and "Community Chest."  You are not passing "Go" Mr. Wayne.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

Not safe for young or work or those easily offended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY

My bad MarkE, I needed to reference the water columns equalizing and forgot,, I assumed that all would understand that reference without me having to make it,, but at least you missed it, so others might of missed it as well.

So when you forgot that you asked your clueless question: "how much energy is needed to be applied to stop the water from just accelerating" your forgetfulness was dementia?  And pray tell what is your excuse for asking how much energy is required to supply a force?  The person having trouble understanding basic concepts here is obviously you.

[MarkE]

Oh shoot MarkE,, would you look at your quote,, I did qualify that statement,, darn it all for you any way!

This preface:

Kind of like where the other half of the energy goes when equalizing,,

Does nothing to fix this bone headed question:

or should I ask, how much energy is needed to be applied to stop the water from just accelerating

No specific energy is needed in any context.  Reducting the applied force to zero will "stop the water from just accelerating".

[mondrasek]

How much Work is done when the water above the piston is lifted?