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Acoustic magnetic generator.

Started by synchro1, February 15, 2014, 06:07:02 PM

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Jimboot

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 16, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
Congratulations, Jimboot! You've invented the saturable-core transformer!

Too bad Synchro is, as usual, wrong about the implications of what you've shown.
Bloke - this type of sarcasm is what kills this forum. I never made any claims. I was simply sharing something that I had learned. I wasn't trying to fool anyone like others have done with fake magnet motors. Glad I started this thread somewhere else. Ever heard of simple civil discourse.
I'll be f'ed if I go to any trouble to show you anything.


synchro1

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 16, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Wanna bet, stynchro1? How about showing some measurements that back up this outrageous claim. When the LEDs are lit and the phone is driving the input, the phone is indeed supplying current, I guarantee it.

You think his phone isn't putting any current into the "so called transformer" ? Then he should be able to disconnect it completely and still have bright LEDs. Or is the phone doing some kind of apple-magic that doesn't involve current at all?

That earns a ROFL for sure.

(Stay tuned, I've just made an interesting video that should get you pretty excited, as if you weren't excited enough already.)


I knew you'd go with "Stynchro"! You think that tiny I-Phone battery is suppling the current to light those two LED's to full brightness? Those LED's would run that battery down in a few minutes. Any current from the I-Phone stops at the Transducer, and never gets into the core windings.


The Davidson patent explains the output as an acoustic resonance that excites the nuclear structure of the magnet, not a transfer of current into a magnetic field and back again at transformed voltage from windings differences. Ther's no current in the core wraps, therefore it's not a transformer, it's an "Acoustic Resonance Amplifier"


Jimboot reports increased output with additional magnets and no additional input. Everything is always something else to you "Ivory Tower Egg Heads" with your endless scope shot drivel. How incessantly tedious and unimaginative can people be?


Just "Prove it's not a Platypus"!

TinselKoala

Quote from: Jimboot on February 16, 2014, 02:46:48 PM
Bloke - this type of sarcasm is what kills this forum. I never made any claims. I was simply sharing something that I had learned. I wasn't trying to fool anyone like others have done with fake magnet motors. Glad I started this thread somewhere else. Ever heard of simple civil discourse.
I'll be f'ed if I go to any trouble to show you anything.

Lighten up, "bloke". I never said you did make any claims, did I? It is that other fellow who is making claims, for you.  If you don't think you are showing a saturable core transformer, then argue your point. I can certainly argue mine.




TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on February 16, 2014, 02:49:40 PM

I knew you'd go with "Stynchro"! You think that tiny I-Phone battery is suppling the current to light those two LED's to full brightness? Those LED's would run that battery down in a few minutes. Any current from the I-Phone stops at the Transducer, and never gets into the core windings.
Wrong. The transducer is a capacitor, it passes the AC signal from the phone to the primary windings without difficulty. Would you like to provide some measurements that demonstrate otherwise? Please feel free to do so.
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The Davidson patent explains the output as an acoustic resonance that excites the nuclear structure of the magnet, not a transfer of current into a magnetic field and back again at transformed voltage from windings differences. Ther's no current in the core wraps, therefore it's not a transformer, it's an "Acoustic Resonance Amplifier"
Patents can explain all kinds of things, that does not mean that the explanations are correct. There most certainly IS current in the core wraps and it can be measured in many different ways... none of which you have done.

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Jimboot reports increased output with additional magnets and no additional input. Everything is always something else to you "Ivory Tower Egg Heads" with your endless scope shot drivel. How incessantly tedious and unimaginative can people be?


Just "Prove it's not a Platypus"!

The additional magnets move the core around on its B-H curve, since the small currents from the audio source are not sufficient to saturate it completely. This change in the inductance of the core affects the overall impedance of the transformer's coils and the effectiveness of the transformer action, as well as changing the resonant frequency of the piezo capacitor and coil combo. I've shown exactly the same phenomenon by approaching a Joule Thief ferrite toroid with an external magnet... and you know I have.


Meanwhile, this platypus is almost uploaded:

http://youtu.be/ZKlsMRQUSkE

(No "scope shot drivel" included.... after all, if you aren't required to show measurements, why should I.)

Jimboot

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 16, 2014, 03:29:32 PM
Lighten up, "bloke". I never said you did make any claims, did I? It is that other fellow who is making claims, for you.  If you don't think you are showing a saturable core transformer, then argue your point. I can certainly argue mine.
Yeah, that's the bit you don't get. I didn't come here for an argument - have a nice life