Is this the same? Gundersons Solid State Electric Generator Patent

[steve_whiss]

On first glance this looks like the same device as Steve Marks ring - or uses a variation on the same principle; Graham Gunderson's built his magnets in and has explained how it works in the Patent.

http://www.magneticpowerinc.com/mpi-patentapplication.pdf

With the magnets fixed in, would this one stop if you turned it over??

SteveB

[Overtone]

This is an entirely different invention. 

It is much more complex than it appears.  More details will emerge when the Patent is issued. 

Since we are a patent licensing firm, it would be irresponsible to reveal anything more until that time.

Mark Goldes, CEO
Magnetic Power Inc.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Mark,
isn?t the patent already issued ?

Or are you waiting to get a licensing investor to buy it and
build products with it ?

When do you expect to be able to show working hardware ?

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

P.S. I also think, the Steven Mark units are much different
and are more related to selfresonating
and feedbacked Barkhausen resonance.

[AdamMarquis]

Overtone, I believe it's not as complex as you imply it is.
Sure it depends on magnets more than S. Mark's devices,
but still!!

To me it looks deceptively simple, (yet...
that damn flux is puzzling me!) here's why.

When one looks at electromagnetics from a moving electron standpoint
(without an unless magnetic field abstraction, take a look at the New Magnetism
of Distinti @ http://www.distinti.com )
the most simple alternator is this one, from a guy in Laval, Quebec, Canada
US Pat. Application 20050099081 @ http://pat2pdf.org
A magnet being a one wire loop of n amperes, it's easy to conceive and
even calculate what's going on.

The Magnetic power Inc device make the Disk Alternator almost
obsolete, since it's  the same basic idea, except the magnets are
not moving. Now, if we take into account the 5-6 thousand
hertz Steven Mark was able to pulse its cores at, it would
mean that the solid state electrical generator is similar to
a disk alternator driven to circa 70,000 RPMs!!

Adding to that the toroidally wound generator in the Sullivan patent,
20030025416 @ pat2pdf.org
and the low-loss rotating flux transformer patents from Westinghouse
4639610 and 4595843 @ http://pat2pdf.org
one can get understanding of what possibilities are out there.
Basically, saturate the core of the CEG to get free energy out of a
no-moving part flywheel, at least it's what I understand about it.

The CEG,  20030168921, is the 4595843 patent applied to electrical
energy generation. The best way I know of implementing the
blaxbox box is SHE (Selective Harmonic Elimination) sinewave synthesis,
more commonly known as Magic Sinewaves.

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(additional material added in the post, in reply to Overtone)

Regarding the drive coil of the Gundersons device, one has to think
Fynn et al 's Parallel Path technology (newest patent 6342746).

The Parallel-Symmetric coil idea by Erl Koenig is worth of mention too.
It is contained in this US patent, 4806834, which state 25% current
reduction for the same magnetic effect is possible. (His 4584438
patent is a great application of this parallel-symmetric coil idea,
along with the more recent 5977707) It smells bifilar winding.

The Anonymous poster's explanation of the Marks device
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg10964.html#msg10964
mention at the very first point the transistorized bifilar 
kicker of Bedini, which is similar in action to the Time Energy Pump
project, which material might relate to the Mark device.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalwidx.htm

I'm pretty sure the Gunderson device is home buildable from
the combined information in the aforementionned patents.

I recently read the first few S.M. comments about the
difficulties of understanding his device, will read the others
as soon as I get time to give.

[Overtone]

There will be more to the final version (or versions) of this patent (or patents) that will explain my earlier statement.  As a licensing firm, we cannot disclose information prematurely. 

Our goal is mass production of these and several other types of self-sustaining generators, both solid-state and rotary, as rapidly as possible - with the widest distribution so that they can be affordable even in very poor countries. 

There are many aspects of this invention which are not obvious and not simple.  As work proceeds in the lab, we are learning how practical devices can be prototyped and later produced. 

Bringing down the cost will involve the development of new materials.  The early examples are expensive to produce.  We are confident we can accomplish the goal mentioned above, but it is not easy, nor can it be done on a shoestring. 

Think of the history of the transistor.  That is perhaps a good example of a device that was initially very difficult to make.  Today, they are mass produced by the millions at extremely low cost. 

We hope the process moves much faster with energy production, but that is not helped by individuals believing they can make it in a home workshop.  I assure you that in such a case, it will not be Over Unity.