Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[jbignes5]

Jbignes5:

It is indeed possible that the compass magnet itself is causing the deflection.  Also, it's undetermined if a small piece of metal will show any residual magnetism because the field can be very weak.

You should stop this.  There is no misdirection employed nor is there any intention to discredit findings.  It is a perfectly good test to make.  This is all in your head and you should get over it.  I have indeed stated that I do not expect anything to come from HopeGirl and the QEG project based on my experience.  But Luc's test is a completely different thing and the suggestions are real and done with good intentions.

What almost always happens is that there is a peer pressure to try to use every observation to support the latest free energy proposition.  This is done without doing any due diligence and checking of measurements, considering other explanations, doing or inventing other tests to check hypotheses, etc.  That is the wrong way to experiment and do investigations.  This idea that you put on blinders and use tunnel vision to reach your objective is just plain wrong.

Take a look at the "delayed Lenz effect" as an example.  It's almost certain that everybody got that one wrong.  Farmhand pointed out the problems with that notion over a year ago and more recently Conradelectro replicated it.  We looked at the power dissipation in the pick-up coil and realized that when you add the load resistor the power dissipated in the pick-up coil goes down and therefore rotor speeds up.  The problem is that people replicated it, saw what they were expecting to see, and "confirmed" that there was a "delayed Lenz effect."  I am pretty sure nearly none of them made the total power dissipation measurements in the pick-up coil before and after adding the load resistor.

And I know Luc that you may have originated the "delayed Lenz" tests but there is no offense intended.  It's all just part of a learning experience.  If anybody is going to experiment with electronics you can just about never stop learning.

MileHigh

I will stop no such thing. It is healthy to be a skeptic even on the current accepted dogma. I do it boths way not just in this example.


The argument that they should measure this and measure that when they are trying to understand what is happening is not the proper way to experiment. Yes it will help along the way as time and data is present. They are trying to work out the bugs or unthought of hindrances to the system. And if the output is only 25% of what they claim that is still more out then in. I agree that they should have a better knowledge of the unit by testing it out but they are in the process of getting everything else done including structural integrity tests. Obviously you will not be able to snow a trained engineer and fool him. They are doing just that in Taipe. IF this company doesn't know how it is working then obviously they would drop it wouldn't they?


Just hang on a bit longer and see the results before claiming anything yourself. If they have to teach electrical engineers something in order to build it then it has to be a new "Something".


This is soo close to the system I am building that I am excited to try to get back to the building of the system I know will work. My excitement wanes fast knowing I can not leave my bed for days at a time. It's depressing to know a good amount of information and not be able to put it into action. I am glad they are doing where I can not. I am glad that the open source theory is proving to be the winner as opposed to keeping this stuff in secret and trying to hoard everything from that work. Keep it open and in the public eye and no one will be able to control it.

[Magluvin]

I was testing hitting the MOT cores with metal like woopy did and found what causes the voltage.

I also checked for magnetism in my I cores and could not conclude anything.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3v2d2czTZg

Luc

Yeah, the compass may not be the best idea. But, there may be a better way of using it.

The face of the ecore has 3 poles. If you bring the compass close to each of the 3 posts, 1 at a time, if there is residual magnetism, the compass should have a preference as to which end of the needle is attracted to each pole.  Like if the N of the compass points to the center pole, the outer poles should produce a S needle attraction. That is if there is residual mag field in the core.

When you were rotating the core caps of the motor with the compass on top of the ecore, the compass seemed to have N attraction to one cap and S attraction to the other cap.  May have been just the inertia of the needle as you rotated one cap to the next, but I would recheck that also.


The insulated screw driver deal was very interesting.    How much voltage was being produced with that test when you were touching the metal of the screwdriver? And I wonder how much there may be if you had a ground wire attached to the screwdriver and retest.

I have a mot here that I will try some things as you did. Im thinking of setting up a reed relay to buzz at different freqs, connecting and disconnecting ground to the core.  Might be interesting.

Very good thinking on your part there.  Very impressed, as usual.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Jibgnes5:

You are welcome to question and be a skeptic about the current accepted dogma.  That's a technical issue and don't be surprised if you get technical responses.

Stop trying to allege that I am something that I am not.  I am not a 'bad guy' so get over it.  My discussion about the remnant magnetism is 100% legitimate and you tried to suggest that this was being done to derail this investigation and that is not true.

Going back to the Far East, I thing it's too soon to get a response from the engineers in Taipei.  I assume sometime later we will hear from them.  Based on my real-world experience, it's honesty hard for me to believe that they got an audience with some engineers.  Just like it's hard to believe that Wayne Travis has real engineers working for him.  But that's just me.  So let's hope that we hear from the Taipei engineers directly, and not via HopeGirl's blog.

I am sorry that you have heath issues and I hope that you can devote some time to your projects.

MileHigh

[jbignes5]

Jibgnes5:

You are welcome to question and be a skeptic about the current accepted dogma.  That's a technical issue and don't be surprised if you get technical responses.

Stop trying to allege that I am something that I am not.  I am not a 'bad guy' so get over it.  My discussion about the remnant magnetism is 100% legitimate and you tried to suggest that this was being done to derail this investigation and that is not true.

I am sorry that you have heath issues and I hope that you can devote some time to your projects.

MileHigh

No i took issue with the method to measure residual magnetism. You knew the compass had a magnet in it and hence why it was designed to look like the core was magnetized. Most uneducated people who are working here believe that crap and hence my comment that this is a bad guy tactic. You proposed that not me nor anyone else. It is what it appears. What was shown is that a self proclaimed professional would even suggest to detect a magnetic field by using a magnet especially if the residual magnet is in steel? Come on you did not know that a magnet reacts to steel?

[MileHigh]

Luc:

I am going to give you a suggestion for using the compass with a simple example that perhaps you can apply in your own way with your setup.

We know the compass is a magnet itself.  So it has the ability to disturb it's own measurements.  This is an issue that comes up all the time in all sorts of applications of sensors.  For an example, when you use an ammeter, it disturbs the current measurement by introducing an extra resistance into the current loop.  However, you understand in most cases the disturbance is insignificant.

The way to overcome this issue with the compass is to make differential measurements.

Suppose you have a rectangular block of metal to check for residual magnetism, and you also have an identical block of metal that is not magnetized.

The compass is lined up North-South and you approach the compass with the unmagnetized metal block and place it so the compass deflects 45 degrees.  Now, since the block of metal is unmagnetized, if you turn it around by 180 degrees and put it in the same position, the compass will still be deflected by 45 degrees.

Now if you do the same test with the slightly magnetized block you will get different results.  In one position the compass might be deflected by 43 degrees.  Turn the block around and the compass might be deflected by 47 degrees.  That is clearly telling you that there is some residual magnetism in the second block of metal.

Note that you don't need the unmagnetized block of metal as a reference.  I simply used it in the description to make the point.

Your box is built so I don't know if you can make this measurement.  If you had the "I" core and the "E" core on your bench you could in theory do these tests.  Note that you have to test for the three main polarization directions for a block also, x, y, and z.  You assume that you don't know what the direction of the polarization is.

MileHigh