Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Angelic]

I agree with conclusions of this group concerning the QEG. However, I believe that is important to encourage experimentation no matter how silly it may appear to others. Experimentation is the foundation which will lead to the knowledge for future breakthroughs. And many amazing discoveries have been made purely by accident. This does not excuse the way that the QEG has been exploited, but it should be a lesson for others that validation is absolutely crucial before making claims. And I would hope that others here would encourage open sourcing of ideas without the risk of being made fun of, or ignored. There is no such thing as a stupid question or experiment. I enjoy experimentation in many different fields.

I am not being critical in any way toward this forum or its members. As I respect you all and the knowledge and experience you are willing to share with others.           

[TinselKoala]

I agree with conclusions of this group concerning the QEG. However, I believe that is important to encourage experimentation no matter how silly it may appear to others.

Really? Think about that for a moment, in the context of some of the really really silly things we've seen.

Experimentation is the foundation which will lead to the knowledge for future breakthroughs. And many amazing discoveries have been made purely by accident.

Not quite "purely". There is a saying that chance favors the prepared mind. This means that amazing discoveries can indeed be made, even unexpected ones, but they will not be made by people who do not understand the basics of the area in which they choose to experiment.

This does not excuse the way that the QEG has been exploited, but it should be a lesson for others that validation is absolutely crucial before making claims.

And soliciting money based on unvalidated claims that are claimed to be true and validated... is not only inexcusable, it's criminal. And the people who do such should be treated accordingly, not handled with "kid gloves" because they are "experimenters" who should be tolerated or even encouraged.

And I would hope that others here would encourage open sourcing of ideas without the risk of being made fun of, or ignored.

To the extent that one's ideas are far out of the mainstream, one should expect to be ridiculed or ignored. To the extent that one's DATA is repeatable and solid, one should be respected and attention should be paid.

There is no such thing as a stupid question or experiment.

I have a theory that if I strap pingpong paddles to my wrists and elbows, and flap my arms hard enough, I can fly. Would you encourage me to go and jump off a 10 story building to "experiment" with my theory? Or would you call that a stupid experiment? Or is this a stupid question?

I enjoy experimentation in many different fields.

So do I. Do you waste your time on just any off-the-wall suggestion, or do you know enough to reject certain "possibilities" out of hand as actually being impossible on the face of it? For example, do you have a Bessler wheel in your garage, that you work on for a couple hours every day? How about a permanent magnet motor or SMOT?

See what I mean? Every body has limits. I hope... even you.

The QEG and the HypeGirl story exceeded my limits long ago. These people and their sycophants deserve no respect at all, they are not even "experimenting" in a scientific manner and yet... they are still soliciting funds based on false claims and promises they will never fulfil.

I am not being critical in any way toward this forum or its members. As I respect you all and the knowledge and experience you are willing to share with others. 

[Angelic]

This is exactly what I mean.
If I were Ariovaldo or others like him I would avoid posting on this forum. I may be wrong, but I believe his intent was not to disprove the QEG but to share results that many were not.

[TinselKoala]

This is exactly what I mean.
If I were Ariovaldo or others like him I would avoid posting on this forum. I may be wrong, but I believe his intent was not to disprove the QEG but to share results that many were not.

And why do you think he shouldn't post on this forum? Is there any other forum where people are telling the truth, fully, about the QEG or their work with it?

Do you think that Ariovaldo believes, or has ever believed, that the QEG device would actually ever produce OU? Perhaps we should ask _him_ just what he believes and what his intent is.

[Angelic]

I believe that the QEG was intriguing enough, that Ariovaldo invested his time and money in it to further his own knowledge and understanding. And shared it with this group, looking for suggestions from those that he noticed who contribute to his experimentation. But Ariovaldo is the only one who knows for sure.