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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Farmhand

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 27, 2014, 12:56:52 AM
The loaded and unloaded input powers can be seen in the video above.

But why are you demanding more from me, than the world is demanding from FTW QEG, James Robitaille and all the rest of the QEG teams around the world? I have already shown you much more than any of them have done, and I haven't even gotten a cheezburger for it. While the FTW people have spent, all told, something like half a million dollars and still haven't even run a motor on their outputs.

I'll tell you what. As soon as any of the big QEG teams demonstrates valid output measurements while their QEG powers a motor (not the other way around), I'll show the power output measurements from the TKTransverter powering MY motor. Fair enough?

8)

Well I'll tell you why. The reason is because I'm not really interested in what they are doing and claiming, they are full of it.

But I am interested in what you are doing and showing and what more you can show and likely will show. I hope I didn't read as
demanding. Just asking. I might well try a similar setup, but I won't be getting as serious about the measurements, unless I see
something out of the ordinary.

I'll look closer at the video.  :)

I guess I should be asking for

1) The loaded input and output as well as the loop power.
2) The unloaded input and loop power. (No load no output)

I must say I'm probably a bit confused. Are you considering the power dissipated by the CSR as "output" ? Because I think
that is valid. In that case then 2) would include asking for the output.

My small Tesla coils with the bottom of the secondary connected can also run a small DC motor so I think I can not really replicate but show similar. By the time I get the circuit made up this thread might be dead.

I think your TKTransverter looks like the secondary of an air core resonant transformer.

It is my opinion that some fakers use that method by hiding the primary and just showing the secondary with load. Or they similarly do as some of us have done with two transformers and show the receiver transformer of a two transformer setup
and by hiding (not showing) the transmitter (power supply) they can use one wire and call it the Earth wire and say they are
getting power from the ground. The system will work with both the transmitter and receiver transformers both connected to the same Earth stake (which is more efficient than putting ground between two earth stakes at HF) but that's off topic, slightly related. Akula - Tariel territory.
Less losses to go directly from primary to the secondary with load if no distance is to be overcome.

I agree with your review.

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P.S. I simply think of the "transmitter" of a two transformer setup as the "AC generator" power supply and the receiver as the translating device. AC generator meaning a generator of AC power from a DC input.
So it's basic power supply to transformer stuff with some resonance.

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Farmhand on July 27, 2014, 02:12:10 AM
Well I'll tell you why. The reason is because I'm not really interested in what they are doing and claiming, they are full of it.
Well, yes, they are but I think many of "them" are just dupes, hopeful believers in what they've been told and what was implied to them by HopeGirl and James Robitaille. I think a lot of those people would not have jumped in with both feet so quickly, had James and HopeGirl made sure that the Truth was fully known to those people in the beginning. At the present time I know that there are still other people and groups who are thinking about taking the plunge and spending thousands of dollars on what we know will be a failed project. If any of those people or groups, viewing my videos, will simply slow down and wait at least until James himself shows the long-promised, only-hours-away self running QEG before spending their own money, then that is a good result. And if it turns out that James _cannot_ in fact demonstrate any self runner, then those people might be a little thankful for my videos. Or maybe not, whatever. I'll know it was all worthwhile, if someone only sends me a cheezburger.
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But I am interested in what you are doing and showing and what more you can show and likely will show. I hope I didn't read as
demanding. Just asking.
No worries mate, I'm just trying to make things perfectly clear to whoever might be watching. Suppress me, will they? I have tricks I haven't shown anyone yet.
QuoteI might well try a similar setup, but I won't be getting as serious about the measurements, unless I see
something out of the ordinary.

I'll look closer at the video.  :)

I guess I should be asking for

1) The loaded input and output as well as the loop power.
The loop power is shown in the scopeshot above and in the video. This is "loaded", running the light, and running the motor doesn't change it much. Raises the frequency a little bit, draws a bit more current and since the battery is flat, the loop voltage sags a few volts. The loaded input power can be seen in the video above, where I vary the coupling by rotating the inner TransVerter coil while you can hear the motor and see the input DMM readings. What you are (rightly) calling the "output power" will just have to wait, sorry, until we see something like that from FTW QEG builders.
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2) The unloaded input and loop power. (No load no output)
Unloaded input power is seen at the very beginning of the video. Well, the LEDs are lit but I'm told that that isn't really a load. Right. Loop power, as I said, doesn't change much whether or not the device is loaded. Input power goes up with load, as you might expect, and this is shown in the video.
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I must say I'm probably a bit confused. Are you considering the power dissipated by the CSR as "output" ?
Not really, although it is included in the loop for measurement purposes.
QuoteBecause I think
that is valid. In that case then 2) would include asking for the output.

My small Tesla coils with the bottom of the secondary connected can also run a small DC motor so I think I can not really replicate but show similar. By the time I get the circuit made up this thread might be dead.
I am sure that you can run a motor, completely disconnected, from your TCs if you make a resonant receiver according to the principles shown in the video. Use a tank capacitor close to the value of the TC's distributed capacitance, wind a corresponding air core or ferrite core inductor to make the "receiver" resonate at the TC's frequency (doesn't need to be a clean straight single layer solenoid like the TC's secondary), lead an ultrafast, HV diode off one side of the tank into a reservoir cap (very important) and then hook the motor across the reservoir cap.
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I think your TKTransverter looks like the secondary of an air core resonant transformer.
D'ya think? But what about those other components, the HWB and reservoir cap? That makes it a full-on AC-to-DC receiver/inverter, doesn't it?
;)
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It is my opinion that some fakers use that method by hiding the primary and just showing the secondary with load. Or they similarly do as some of us have done with two transformers and show the receiver transformer of a two transformer setup
and by hiding (not showing) the transmitter (power supply) they can use one wire and call it the Earth wire and say they are
getting power from the ground. The system will work with both the transmitter and receiver transformers both connected to the same Earth stake (which is more efficient than putting ground between two earth stakes at HF) but that's off topic, slightly related. Akula - Tariel territory.
Less losses to go directly from primary to the secondary with load if no distance is to be overcome.
This is exactly my opinion as well. When I found out Ruslan is closely associated with a commercial FM broadcast station, that sealed the deal as far as I am concerned. And the newest Wesley video is a hoot, isn't it? People walking a couple feet away from a kW-class TC with a big toroid on top, video cameras in hand... I am laughing in my coffee.
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I agree with your review.

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P.S. I simply think of the "transmitter" of a two transformer setup as the "AC generator" power supply and the receiver as the translating device. AC generator meaning a generator of AC power from a DC input.
So it's basic power supply to transformer stuff with some resonance.

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Yep, that's what it is. But it turns out to be an interesting learning opportunity, once again. Some lessons are just more expensive than others, I suppose. I just wish I had a cheezburger now and then.

MarkE

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 27, 2014, 12:24:53 AM
The resistors are 5 watt resistors, aren't they? WNER50FE

And at 11 Amps p-p, that is only about 3.9 A rms, isn't it?

http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/Voltage-rms-calculator.php

;)
Two issues.  I misinterpreted the pp as the half peak, so there's a big difference there.  RMS is 0.1250.5*pp or 0.354*Vpp.  The second is that I thought you were using 1W resistors instead of 5W resistors.  11App = 15.13A2 mean squared, or 15.13W/Ohm.  Total dissipation in two 0.5 Ohm resistors in parallel will be 3.78W, and 1.9W in each resistor.  So the bottom line is that you should be fine.

ACG

There has been MORE open sourcing and publishing of results and metrics on page 134 of this thread covering the miniqeg than what was came out of the entire 9 months of this FTW qeg boondoggle.

When the tv documentaries cover this qeg craze as they have so many other cults I hope they use this thread and TK efforts to show real open sourcing as a comparison to how FTW should have done it.

Take a look at this video where a guy wakes up to qeg fraud:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaTrlfU-Zzg

Farmhand

Quote from: ACG on July 27, 2014, 04:36:24 AM
There has been MORE open sourcing and publishing of results and metrics on page 134 of this thread covering the miniqeg than what was came out of the entire 9 months of this FTW qeg boondoggle.

When the tv documentaries cover this qeg craze as they have so many other cults I hope they use this thread and TK efforts to show real open sourcing as a comparison to how FTW should have done it.

Take a look at this video where a guy wakes up to qeg fraud:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaTrlfU-Zzg

That video is very good to see. It shows just how easy it is to scam people with hope and little logic or understanding
of power and energy. I'm no expert just an amateur hack but I can understand the basics of energy delivery and
reactive power only because I learned some by free tuition from SeaMonkey on a different site. Still it took some
research and experiments before things clicked and the logic was seen.

It also shows the value of the technical guys and that they do save a lot of people from wasting money on scams.
The guy in the video is only interested in free energy he doesn't seem to care too much about the details. But he has
some discretion and he used it well. Good on him for making the video to tell of his experience.

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