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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Farmhand

As i said I had to repeat the experiment and got a variation unfortunately but it's for the better, overall.
I worked out I could get more data depth so I got one max data depth CSV, one displayed data depth CSV and one shot from
the output tank. There is more current this time in the tank and the light is brighter which I can't explain except for power supply
variation or I somehow made a better connection or the tube is hotter or colder or something. Input still said 12.3 volts at 0.3 A
but it could be almost 12.38 or something so I think I should use 12.4 volts x 0.3 Amp for the input = 3.72 Watts input !
Effect of the tube on the tank can be seen.
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P.S. Give me some days until I can get the appropriate CSR's and I'll redo the experiment showing all measurements done at
one time. Hope I can also get the input voltage, current and phase on the primary coil as well but not so concerned with that
unless I can do it all at the same session.
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Umm, It's been raining so maybe a ground loop is coming into my measurements or something now. or "Clip leads to load grrrrr".

Farmhand

 ;D Both actors in this could clip represent myself or others.  ;) Some comic relief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc6Vu-NLu0M

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isim

Quote from: isim on August 21, 2014, 05:40:28 AM
Yes, you got it. As the Voltage and Current are sinusoidal, we can use the formula:
Pload=Vload Rms*Vcsr_rms/CSR=84.8 * 0.0922 * cos (12°)=7,65 W
This same very resonable!
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No, it is not:)

Edit: I made an error!
I forget the CSR, so with CSR=0.1ohm
Power in CSR:
Pcsr=I²*R=(Vcsr_rms/CSR)²*CSR=Vcsr_rms²/CSR=(0.0922)²/0.1=0.001W, it's nothing.
and Power in Lamp:
Pload=Vload Rms*Vcsr_rms/CSR=84.8 * 0.0922 * cos (12°) / 0.1 = 76.5 W
with your last measurement file (csv) I got 76.58W.
Is it compatible with your Lamp?
I was supposing it was a 10W fluorescent lamp...

isim

Quote from: isim on August 21, 2014, 08:04:25 AM
No, it is not:)

Edit: I made an error!
I forget the CSR, so with CSR=0.1ohm
Power in CSR:
Pcsr=I²*R=(Vcsr_rms/CSR)²*CSR=Vcsr_rms²/CSR=(0.0922)²/0.1=0.001W, it's nothing.
and Power in Lamp:
Pload=Vload Rms*Vcsr_rms/CSR=84.8 * 0.0922 * cos (12°) / 0.1 = 76.5 W, with displayed value of the oscilloscope.
with your last measurement file (csv) I got 76.58W, with the log.
Is it compatible with your Lamp?
I was supposing it was a 10W fluorescent lamp...

Farmhand

That's what makes things a bit complicated Isim, the 76 Watts or so is the oscillating power in the tank because the tank cannot be
consuming all that VA either and the supply can't be supplying it all at once, SO the only logical explanation is that the 76 Watts or
so is oscillating power "in phase" but out of Phase by almost 180 degrees and the difference is the tank and load circuit losses
and the output load power combined I guess in Watts. Which is why it makes no sense the 10 Watt fluro lights up so bright. It
might be Half brightness but definitely not less than that surely. Difficult to show brightness on the camera, it compensates.

The"out" of phase "load" power it sees should be returned to the tank just like a grid connected load with a poor power factor.
But no power can return to the battery only to the primary circuit. As would be analogous with a power generating facility.

Hence why I wanted to experiment with a "complete system".
from Stored Potential = (battery), = (Pile of Coal)
to Prime mover of generator = (Primary coil), = ( Turbine)
to the AC power generator/converter = (The HV Tank)
to the load = Fluro or (whatever is used)
and back to the AC generator = (The HV Tank)  :)

What we won't see is the battery recharged or the Sun or Moon get brighter from power back through the solar panels hehehee.

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I should really use a transformer between the HV Tank and the loads as if I was plugging a transformer into the grid and
measure only the input and output of that transformer and the load power to be doing the same as most reactive power OU claims.
:)