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Overunity Machines Forum



The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

Started by gurangax, April 24, 2014, 02:40:13 PM

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zoelra

gurangax said
"His wheel is run by gravity not CF, you have misunderstood the weight swinging which gain force."

Are you saying the interpretation itself is wrong (that is, there is no swinging and no gained force such as CF) or are you saying there is swinging and gained force but the force is not CF ?

gurangax

Quote from: zoelra on May 16, 2014, 10:55:36 PM
gurangax said
"His wheel is run by gravity not CF, you have misunderstood the weight swinging which gain force."

Are you saying the interpretation itself is wrong (that is there is no swinging like a pendulum and therefore no gained force such as CF) or are you saying there is swinging and gained force but the force is not CF ?


Im afraid that what I will say will give out the secret but here goes. You are intepreting the swinging weights at the wrong plane of axis, Bessler meant the swing on the z plane.


regards

fletcher

Perhaps he means the levers orientated in the z plane at right angles to the direction of rotation will lift up due Cf once a wheel is dynamic ?

zoelra

In my design the weight lifting mechanism is a variation of the 2 stage oscillator and it does swing in the z plane (really the y-z plane where y is the vertical axis).  I use the word 2 stage oscillator because everyone is familiar with the working Milkovic 2SO.  However my variation of the 2SO is nothing like Milkovics.  Instead of swinging, you could design the mechanism so the weight just drops and does the lifting work, but then the wheel has to rotate 180 degrees so the weight resets.  I prefer swinging so the weight returns to its initial position.  You definitely have to use the z plane for the movement.  So now you know something about my design.

gurangax

Quote from: fletcher on May 16, 2014, 11:14:35 PM
Perhaps he means the levers orientated in the z plane at right angles to the direction of rotation will lift up due Cf once a wheel is dynamic ?


im saying no to the idea


regards